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Sewer firms want Cudjoe deal
Private partnership says it will do the job for less money

A private group of wastewater consultants told Monroe County commissioners Wednesday that they could give the commission "101 million reasons" why they should take over the Cudjoe Regional wastewater project, referring to the dollars county residents could save over 20 years.

A consulting group is calling itself Florida Keys Partnership, which is comprised of several Florida wastewater design and construction firms, claimed it could guarantee the system would cost residents from Cudjoe Key to Big Pine Key $295 million over 20 years. The county and Florida Keys Aqueduct Authority plans for Cudjoe Regional would be $396 million over 20 years, which includes capital, operation, maintenance and finance costs, said Lee Grant, vice president of AECOM Inc., a member of Florida Keys Partnership.

Florida Keys Partnership also wants to change the project plans from one central plant to four or five smaller plants. Grant said doing so would keep from running pipes, which could break or be damaged in major storms, along bridges.

The partnership includes general contractors Globe Tec, wastewater engineering firm AECOM and the wastewater company Veolia. It made a pitch to the commission to put the project out to bid.

However, the presentation was vague when it came to costs and savings, the location of plants and whether the treatment facilities would meet state-required advanced wastewater treatment levels. Grant said the group did not go into detail because they did not want to reveal too much information that could benefit competing firms. He did say their project would have a smaller footprint and use smaller pipes that could be placed at shallower depths than the current proposal.

"We feel comfortable with these numbers," Grant said Friday.

The consultants were brought in by County Administrator Roman Gastesi, who has worked with some members of the firms in the past. Gastesi has been a lobbyist on wastewater issues, and worked for the South Florida Water Management District. For months, Gastesi has argued the county should look at other approaches to the Cudjoe Regional project now under the supervision of the county and Aqueduct Authority.

County Commissioner Kim Wigington and Aqueduct Authority officials questioned the savings and the fact that the private group wants to abandon plans for one central treatment plant. Building multiple plants multiplies the difficulty of acquiring sites acceptable to the public, and the purchase of multiple sites increases costs. Aqueduct Authority officials dealt with "nimbyism" -- not in my back yard -- when acquiring sites in residential neighborhoods for less offensive water storage tanks, said Aqueduct Authority spokeswoman Colleen Tagle.

The utility initially proposed building three plants on Cudjoe Key, Sugarloaf Key and Big Pine Key. Last year, the agency decided to go with one plant adjacent to an old county landfill site on Cudjoe Key. The move lowered land purchase and staffing and maintenance costs, as well as public objections.

"They are the best neighbor we could find," said Aqueduct Authority Director of Engineering Tom Walker, referring to the fact that no one at the old landfill will complain about smell.

The Florida Keys Partnership's pitch comes after the Aqueduct Authority has been working on the project for more than a year, and has already spent $2.1 million on initial design work for the regional plant and wastewater system, estimated to cost $194 million and serve about 9,000 homes and businesses.

Aqueduct Authority Deputy Executive Director Kerry Shelby challenged the group's projected costs if the public utility handles the project. While the partnership claims residents would pay $396 million for the Aqueduct Authority project, Shelby said the number is inflated by at least $24 million due to exaggerated projections of monthly operation and maintenance costs.

County Mayor George Neugent called the Florida Keys Partnership's proposal intriguing, but he, too, questioned their numbers. After Commissioners Heather Carruthers and Mario Di Gennaro expressed interest, Neugent asked county staff to further investigate the partnership's proposal.

Commissioner Kim Wigington, a longtime critic of a controversial private wastewater project on Stock Island, was more skeptical of the pitch.

"I raised concerns because of this county's past history with involvement in wastewater, and the tendency of individual commissioners and county officials to be involved with, or have inappropriate relationships with, private for-profit companies," Wigington said. "We, as the county, by agreement with the state, are not allowed to be in charge of wastewater like in the past. The Aqueduct Authority is Monroe County's wastewater authority, partly as a result of a grand jury that penned a scathing report of the county's involvement in wastewater."

Wigington also noted that the Aqueduct Authority does put projects out to bid with its projects.

Cheaper costs usually are a result of cost-cutting in areas that place a greater financial burden on individual property owners, Wigington said.

"There are also cheaper systems that cost less to build, but much more to maintain, so any savings in the beginning are quickly overcome by higher maintenance costs that can never be overcome unless the system is replaced with another type system," she said. "I am convinced that the county's 11th-hour wrestling with authority over wastewater, or any individual commissioners or county officials being involved in relationships with private for-profit companies, will jeopardize any and all state funding in the future."

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Gastesi is in with Viola.

He has tried to get Viola's foot in the Key's wastewater door for a while now. Viola tried to get into the city of Marathon but failed there. All the companies in the Florida Keys Partnership are based out of the Keys and they are trying to get down here and get some of our local money. At least the FKAA is local. Also, since when can't you run pipes along side the bridges with out breaking. How do you think the drinking water gets to the Lower Keys? It does stink that we have to pick between the lesser of two evils but lets at least keep it local.

Marathon Wastewater and Viola

Viola requested a bid package and attended the first meeting to get an overview of what Marathon was offering. Viola never submitted a bid, U.S. Water, Synagro and Pinewood wasteater were the only bids submitted.

Keep It Local?

In an age of Amazon and Walmart taking away from so many small businesses I am all for keeping it local but not at a cost of $ 101 Million of our dollars and not to an entity, FKAA, that has broken public laws over and over again, most recently being guilty again just last year. Not when Mayor Neugent and the FKAA saw to it that Shark Key got sewered when they were not part of the Plan the BOCC so often likes to tout and did so at a record breaking cost of $ 50,000 per home. It is a farce that it cost more to dig into our rock here in the Lower Keys than the middle or Northern part of this County. At FKAA Piracy is alive and well and the treasure is your money. Enough already! It is time we came to our senses and realize that FKAA is NOT capable of correctly bidding its work, has no truly professional management, has no real oversight and uses it's friendly (and yes local) contractors who have done nothing but run the costs up out of sight. What FKAA has been allowed to do here has been a gold rush for their bank account and their friendly contractors and that must STOP. People go to prison for what has happened here with OUR money. Whose fault is that? Who is minding the store? Enough already! It is time for an investigation and a change.

Cudjoe Sewer Options

What business does not seek options on a large scale, long term project? One, say, like this sewer project that approaches $ 400 Million of our money to build and operate based on FKAA's figures. None. Not one single business would limit its options, unless it were the BOCC in "partnership" with the FKAA. Enough already! has the School Board of late not (again) shown us what is happening right under our noses? FKAA only uses friendly contractors, shares its own inflated 'estimates' with those seeking work and has been in violation of state public bidding laws for at least a decade. Meanwhile it has built some of, if not the most costly, sewer projects in the history of Florida (check out Shark Key at $ 50,000 per home), has no experience with a project of this size, no vested interest to deliver competitive costs as it does not use it's own money (it uses yours and mine)and no funding to offer. Furthermore, despite example after example of other parts of the County building less costly systems FKAA and their pricey consultants have yet to build anything except the most expensive type system, gravity, despite a multi million dollar report offering several less costly yet equally effective soltions. Seems like those consultants they hire, and you and I pay, have got the FKAA in a trance and are just cashing in at our expense and taking us for fools. So, let's review, FKAA is ultra costly, has no experience on a project of this size, has a long history of breaking public bidding laws, builds only the most costly possible system despite having many options, offers us no money to build the thing but, on the bright side their CEO makes $ 200,000 per year and is friendly with everyone on the BOCC. No business can function in such a manner and stay in business so why should we allow this to happen to our money?

Board: Please think of residents and Forget FKAA

Thank you, County Administrator, for getting the county to finally be forced to look at the exhorbitant costs of FKAA. Everyone has know for a long time that Key Largo, Marathon have contractors doing sewer work for much less. I hope that the Board of County Commissioners makes a good business decision for the Cudjoe Plant. Their excuses for moving away from FKAA are lame and base of some false assumptions. Ms. Wigington's statement is a sham that the FKAA bids the jobs. She and other commissioners have been directed to the State's General Auditor website to read the past 10 years reports. Apparently, she has not done so because the General Auditor has cited FKAA for violating the bid law every year and they STILL have not corrected that audit finding. Please give all options serious consideration. $101 Million seems compelling to me.

Sewer Firms want Cudjoe Deal

It sounds like most of the commissioner's initial attitudes toward this issue are correct. After all Neugent went through in the Nora Williams years, it seems unimaginable that he is entertaining another dalliance from the path to completing this project. That Gastesi "worked with some members of the firms in the past" should be a SCREAMING red flag and potentially raise conflict of interest concerns. This looks like the beginning of yet another cycle of delay, wherein Monroe County is courted by a sewer suitor who vaguely promises a cheaper solution, the County estranges itself from the FKAA and NOTHING gets done and then the County has to defend its lack of progress on sewering to the Governor and Cabinet who should be compelled by law to reduce building allocations in response to the lack of progress. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

County pushed screaming and yelling the entire way

Tho county never wanted to enter into an agreement with the FKAA. Jeb Bush wanted it and he pushed DCA and the county into a one-sided agreement between unwilling partners. The County pays the bills, which FKAA isn't concerned with because it isn't their money. Want to see some entertainment? Go to an FKAA bid meeting and watch FKAA staff tell prospective bidders how much to charge (if you charge $50 a foot elsewhere, you need to charge $100 a foot here) Yes. This is how a state agency picks the bones of county residents clean. Rice, Neugent and now Wigington are brainwashed. The last administrator told the BOCC it was a bad idea, they didn't listen. Gastesi tells them about alternates, they start defending the FKAA. What track record does FKAA have? Over budget on every project to date, numerous bid mistakes and costly rebidding, bad pumps and equipment at Baypoint, which they are now saying will be inadequate to use in the future and the flow moved to the regional plant at Cudjoe. The BOCC needs to end this bad dream or the FKAA needs to get their funding directly from the state. Talk about taxation without representation! FKAA members aren't elected, don't listen to county residents and have to kiss the governors rear to get reappointed so they do his bidding instead of what is good for us. Somebody wake up. We can see that the BOCC isn't up to the challenge.

Bay Point reply

Bay point was not FKAA but was built by U.S. Water and their contractors. That is why Bay Point has had so many issues! You all may be right about FKAA and their bids. But the county needs to keep one centralized watewater plant instead of half dozen or more smaller ones. Easier to maintain and operate one big plant than many smaller plants scattered through out the Keys. As far as the Key largo and Islamorada's systems go, there is law suits against the village for sewer back ups in peoples homes due to a faulty treatment collection system!!
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