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Tuesday, June 16, 2009
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City mulls marina proposals

Key West city officials next week will hear from two companies that want to build a marina at Truman Waterfront -- with the city's investment under those proposals ranging from $14 million to $34 million.

The Meisel Spottswood Marina Management Co. wants to develop a $34 million marina that would serve both charter boats and mega-yachts ranging in size from 60 to 250 feet, according to one of the two proposals submitted to the city.

Plans include the creation of two public parks, bicycle paths and a restaurant open to the public. Marina guests would have access to a pool, lounge and other amenities.

The marina area would encompass 23.9 acres, and would be managed by Meisel Spottswood, which also will "obtain financing on behalf of the city of Key West," the proposal states.

In other words, the company is suggesting that Key West secure a 20-year bond for $34 million for the design and construction of the project. Such a debt would require voter approval, City Commissioner Bill Verge said Monday.

"Anytime the city is going to obligate itself with debt, it requires a referendum," he said.

Another key component of the financing would be the dedication of a half-cent of lodging tax to repay the bond. Such a move would require approval from the Monroe County Commission, and likely would be contentious.

Meisel Spottswood would design, build and operate the marina, which would take 21âÑ2 to three years, the proposal states. The company would receive an initial developer's fee from the $34 million, and then a percentage of gross revenue every year.

Meisel & Spottswood links two familiar names in Key West business and real estate circles. Joel Meisel's companies have operated the Casa Marina and Reach resorts, along with several other properties.

The Spottswood family name has been synonymous with Key West real estate for more than a century.

The second proposal comes from a trio of investors who are willing to ante up $14 million of their own cash, build the facility, operate the marina and pay the city "7 percent of monthly gross receipts, or a minimum of $6,000 monthly rent," the proposal states.

"The anticipated annual revenue is at least $100,000 to the city," the proposal states. "This results in nearly $2 million the first 10 years."

The entities behind the second proposal are from South Florida, but not Key West. The Miami-based AAA Marina Group would contribute $5.6 million, as would the Miami-based Leyva Marine Group. Cardenas Investments, owned by Alberto Cardenas of Key Biscayne, would contribute $2.8 million.

The $14 million proposal does not include community parks or as many amenities as the more costly project, and it is expected to take 15 to 18 months to finish.

City commissioners will meet June 23 and 24 to consider the proposals separately.

Key West Mayor Morgan McPherson said Monday he had not made up his mind about which proposal he would support, but said he wanted to see both presentations.

"I consider [Truman Waterfront] to be the crown jewel of Key West, and now is the time to do this," he said. "I think both proposals have merit. This is an exciting time for the city of Key West."

The workshops take place at 6 p.m. at Old City Hall, 510 Greene St.

The marina proposals are available for review in the city clerk's office.

mbolen@keysnews.com

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Another thought - what does the city need another marina for?

And...how are these yacht owners going to get into town? Conch Train? I mean, really. Check the occupancy of all the marinas in town and various times of the year, and check the profit that this supposedly will net the city. It doesn't even compare with the profit of the Garrison Bight and City Marina. AND of course, someone will have to provide services, water, electricity to the site. Who eats that? Has anyone thought this through? This isn't a very smart move on anyone's part. That area should be reserved for marine attractions such as the Coast Guard historic vessels and the NOAA people.

Not One Penny for the Spottswoods!!!!

Exactly why would the people of Key West want to vote a bond issue to support a private enterprise? And the anticipated revenue to the city is $100,000? This is prime property! Why would the city only get $100,000 while the developers get $34 million up front, and a percentage each year? No no no no no no no no no no no no no! I hope our commissioners are smart enough not to fall for this crap. I know the lodging association will not stand for a half-cent of the bed tax going to support yet another McPherson-supported private enterprise. Commissioners, are you listening? Please don't support this mess!

I guess I missed something.

I must have missed something because I thought the Truman Waterfront was for the use and enjoyment of all the people of Key West. I did not know it was a Crown Jewell to be sold to the highest bidder. This must be a very exciting time to be the Mayor of Key West.

Indeed it must be exciting for McPhoney

Maybe he sees a chance to renew his under-the-table income stream lost when Cay Clubs went under and when Cortex ran into it's brick wall? Maybe he sees the chance to get out of his two foreclosures? WHO voted for this loser?????? I'm glad I never have. At least I don't feel responsible every time he brings up another big plan that would line pockets of his buddies and cost the city money.

City Revenue

How much is the anticipated city revenue under the more expensive proposal? 8K/month for the second proposal seems absurdly low for a property of that magnitude.

Fallacy of the False Alternative

These are clearly not the only two options

This strawman debate amongst the city commission between these ONLY two alternatives speaks loudly to how stupid they think the citizens of Key West to be

Watch out for a combination of a Spottswood intrest and Morgan's moving lips at any given moment

You said it. Remember the 'convention center' that Morgan was

so big on? Oh, and remember the really big, hugely expensive 'campaign event' he had at the restaurant there at what was to be the Beachside condos (now just another hotel)? And remember how Morgan wanted to get all that TDC money to help finance infrastructure for the Spottswoods and Cay Clubs and Cortex and other developers? I'd never support this project. Not enough money for the city and too much to private individuals. See how well that's worked out for, say, Ed Swift and the Steamplant condos? Allowing developers to build on land they do not own really is stupid. The taxpayers are the ones who take the fall when developers have no financial stake in the basic property purchase.

TRANSLATION:

Key West Mayor Morgan McPherson said Monday he had not made up his mind about which proposal he would support, but said he wanted to see both presentations.

= "My vote is still for sale"

truman water front

i, a 6 generation conch, would love to see something built there that would let the locals have a places to go and be able to have fun with, i grow up on that navel base in the 60s, and had a shop there in the 80s i think we should keep the building to the local companies here in town. the miami based company needs to stay in miami thanks rick brown

Keep it bubba local

Irrespective of the likely unlawfulness of "keeping the building to tyhe local companies here in town" ... this bubbaism is exactly the the problem with this town

... and how this baffoon believes he has the ability to make a decision on a project of this scope is a mystery to me

McPherson (and everyone else on the city commission for that matter) has no depth of knowledge to asses this project (has McPherson ever even had a job before playing mayor for campaign manager Bookie H?)

All votes will go to the highest bidder and will certainly not be made in the best intrest of the community

bubbas

Bubbas Sound Off

First, I was born here and consider myself a BUBBA. I am not a close freind of Randy Acevedo, Morgan Mcpherson, or any of the other names that continue to be tossed around although I do know them. If someone has done something wrong, and it appears that they have, than no one, bubba or not, should condone it. To continue to bash bubbas in these comments is insane. Those of you not born here have no idea how the word bubba originated. It comes from a time long before you even knew where we were. We depended on each other, rich-poor and all in between and that kinship was referred to as bubba. How can anyone look at that as a bad thing. You were living wherever you came from and decided to move here. Why? For the weather, hell there is good weather other places.You came for the city, the city the bubbas built from the time there were people here. For you to move here and bash Bubbas, who by the way include 4 generations of my family, is in insult. I would never move to wherver you came from and tell you how screwed up you are, I would expect you to tell me to go the hell back where you came from. The Spottswoods, Henriquez', etc. have done countless good things for this city. Did they profit from some, I'm sure they did, who can deprive them of that if they did it legally. If not I would be the first to call for thier punishment, but it would not totally discredit all the good they have done either. Remember all of you who are so politically correct that you would not bash an entire race for the actions of a few, how do you then condemn all conchs. Next time that your bragging to your freinds in BF wherever that you live in Key West, remember we built it.

Bubbas

• The problem with this entire opinion is the consistent use of the term "Those of you not born here". Everyone in Key West moved here at one time or another. Bubba is a self describing word alluding to self serving. It just happens to be that long time residents help other long time residents and not always in the best interest of Key West. The idea that anyone, even those born in Key West, is entitled to anything more so than a recent visitor is outrageous. What happened to the Hypocritical "One Human Family'?

Give me a break. Educate yourself. You're a Conch. If you're

a crook, then you're a Bubba. The piece quoted below was from another thread but obviously needs to be repeated for those such as you, who like to think of yourself as Bubbas. But hey, maybe you know best what you are! Four generations of crooks? That puts you right in there with the Gotti family, I'd say!

And of course, as far as your building it - you've tried to tear it down at every turn yourselves. Remember? Your people got greedy and tried to tax the crap out of the Cigar industry so they showed you and moved to Tampa. Same with Sponging. And of course, greed and shady ways is what made wrecking a thriving business here. Nothing like driving ships onto a reef with fake lighting to make a big living. Let's not forget the old standard - the drug trade. Big in 60's and 70's, it kept you all afloat for many years. There was a big Bubba bust in the 80's. Oh, how soon you people forget that the law of this country applies to YOU!

And you need to understand what Bubba means in Key West. So maybe you'd like to do some research yourself.

This little masterpiece has been referenced before here in the Citizen and I bought it based on a recommendation of a poster on this site: Bubba Justice in Key West - Pooping on the Public in Paradise by Hobart and Jan Burch.

And it only scratches the surface of incidences during that time frame. You'll recognize all your favorite Bubbas in here and be sure to check out the definition. This comes from page 6 of the book and is quoted directly: "Bubba is a dialect form of 'brother' in the Deep South. It is an honorable term, often used lovingly within families as a boy's nickname, similar to calling a little boy "Sonny". Generically, it conjures up the good 'ol boy image of a friendly, easy-going fella who likes to hunt, fish, drink beer, and drive around in an old pickup truck. Good bubbas never put on airs or dump on anyone else. They are the salt of the earth."

"In Key West, the term for these good guys is "Conch"." (Skip a paragraph, then on to this interesting bit on page 7).

"In Paradises, "bubbas" are Conchs gone wrong, corrupted by greed and a hunger to control Paradise for the benefit of their own little sub-group. Together with selected rich and powerful non-Conchs who are cynically prepared to play ball with them, they have evolved the bubba system. Its function is to promote their mutual benefit at the expense of honest citizens and of "outsiders" who have the effrontery to set up competitive businesses."

I'm sure you could take that a step further to say 'who have the effrontery to expect honesty from public servants'.

So, Mr. 4th Generation, your (not close) Bubba friends, Acevedo and McPherson will surely reflect on you because we all know, you are known by the company you keep.

I have a real problem with anything McPherson might think or do

at this point. We know his close involvement with the Acevedos and Bookie Henriquez and as the above poster noted, he's never had a real job. I mean, come on, folks! He is in foreclosure on two out of two properties and why? Because the developers who [edit by Citizen staff - may have been] paying him under the table have all gone belly up. He's a preacher who's never had a church. He's a realtor who's never sold a property. He's making $10,000 as mayor yet owed over $1.5 million on properties worth half that or less.

I do not want to see this commission vote on anything for the next 5 months as long as McPherson has a hand in it. And I certainly don't want to see a bubba replacement for Kolhage in that time either. This town has had enough Bubba-ism.

Let's not forget, by the way, how McPherson touted Spottswood's big 'convention center' at about the same time he was trying to get TDC money for his now defunct developer buddies, Cay Clubs and what's now known as Keys Caribbean (previously Cortex). He's involved with DiGennaro, the last remaining of the defunct Gang of Three. This guy is simply filthy and dirty and crooked and he should be a true 'lame duck' with no vote, til he's OUT of our government.

Manly Morgan Supported by His wife

That's why Randy Aceveto let the KW High Scool principal go and appointed Mrs. McMendacious principal in his place the evening before Randy was arrested

Then Bookie's son took Randy's place as school superintendent

Randy and Morgan are lap dancing, cigar chomping, beer swilling pals about town

Bookie Henriquez was campaign manager for Randy and for Morgan and we know about the campaign funding for Randy charged to the school P-card

It's just bubba business as usual

truman waterfront

the city makes 2.2 millon on the historic seaport a year, 2 millon over 10 years for truman annex is a joke, also the city fails to recognize the current down turn in marina occuppancy , have they not been over to the old Peninsular marina ? it is a ghost town.

NO publicly funded yacht basin

Any marina in the Truman Waterfront should be a public, municipal marina providing residents and visitors alike with a place to keep their boats. The public should have access to any and all amenities. We don't need a publicly-funded yacht basin with private lounges and pools. The City makes a significant amount of money off of the Historic Seaport because the slips are mostly commercial (and there is other real estate involved). We need more public boat slips so that the average resident of Key West can have access to the water! If the City Commission decides to support these elitist proposals, I'm sure that a community group will step forward and put a proposal on the ballot to take the Truman Waterfront out of the hands of local government and lease it to a nonprofit land trust devoted to public access. I think voters would be more supportive of that than giving developers tens of millions in tax revenue to build a marina and facilities for the megarich!

Truman waterfront

Spottswoods proposal: Spottswoods receive a fee of $1.5 million to $4.5 million up front as a developer fee. The taxpayers are obligated to debt payments of around $25,000 a month for loan payments. The Spottswoods get paid a fee for running the project. Who pays if the project fails in these hard times?
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