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Saturday, June 20, 2009
Board mulls hired school chief

As the community reels from four months of unfolding revelations about alleged financial mismanagement and criminal charges against the schools superintendent and his wife, a referendum to hire for the position is forming in the minds of board members and a local political consultant.

Changing from an elected to an appointed superintendent might not be easy, and will depend...

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School District Super Appointed versus Elected Referendum

If approved by public referendum, Monroe County citizens concede their initial right to choose candidates in a primary election for super to the school board I would support school advisory councils, parent teachers associations, and principals of our schools to announce and prequalify top candidates (no party affiliation) to be listed on a ballot for consideration by the citizens. I would yield my individual right to the majority and vote the "subject matter experts" slate. JFKulick

Be on the watch on tuesday's school board meeting

It appears that Tina Bilotti is expecting the school board to come up with cash to support the once publicly supported band camp. Now if bilotti is being paid $60 k a year to run band camp when we have lost teachers! Well then band camp needs to go. Board member walker has put it on the agenda! Beware Abe is controlled by Randy Acevedo, sunny Booker and mike henriquez doing his best Randy imitation of a blow hard bully as he shoves this down the tax payees throats!, I'm sure board member dunkin dohnut will be waiving the "it's for the children" whine ! I'm sure sunny Booker will be in the stands cheering them on she wrote the request for Band Camp!

I VOTE NO

I will not support a referendum for an appointed superintendent. I will support a referendum for a recall vote as Mr. Kulick has identified and for all the reasons listed by the poster of PROBLEM.

Hold your horses!

I know people will make the case that an appointed super costs more than an elected super but many of you are forgetting something. Elections are all about political patronage for financial support and votes. Randy gave a lot of positions and jobs out as political favors. I bet when you add in the amount of money he spent giving out jobs it would well exceed what a typical appointed super's contract would be. Just look at the campaign expense reports. Click on the 2008 general candidates. It is amazing when you start to see who contributed and where they are in the agency. http://www.keys-elections.org/index.php?op=F&ss=238609&spanish=N

Agree. Time to hire a professional. This popularity contest

[allegedly] has cost the taxpayers a solid half-million on the surface, and who knows what else in the form of created and overpaid positions that were political payback. We can FIRE employees and fire them fast. Even a recall is expensive, though it's better than being stuck with a big fat a** who refuses to go when all have demanded he leave.

We all seem to forget one

We all seem to forget one thing. We are crying I want control, we dont trust the schoo board, democracy democracy. It is about our children. We do we want helping them prepare for the world. If you dont like th politicians in the school board get rid of them. That is democracy but when it comes down to making decisions that effect the growth of our children shouldnt we look for some one who has dedicated there life in the study of educational growth, not for some one who has the most friends down here. You claim there is no oversight, we'll if you do not like the superintendent, talk to your school board member and if that doesnt work get rid of the school board member. Again states with the best education higher the best canidates to provide that education, not just a ridiculous popularity contest. I read a lot of stuff before the last election and acevedos main plea to the voters was trust me I was raised here, not trust me I know what I am doing. Please let us think of the children an education, you wouldnt run a popularity contest for their teachers why should you for the administrator.

You mean we will catch up

You mean we will catch up with the 21 first century. Its easy, other schools do it. We appoint a search committee, not just school board members but members of the PTA, members of the student body, and members of the teaching staff interview and review all canidates, and then they send recommendation to the school board for hiring. Doesnt this sound like it has enough oversight, and democracy while still getting the best possible, QUALIFIED canidate?

Problem

The problem I see with appointed superintendents is that they are much more expensive. They usually dont take the job unless there is a lot of money for them to make - usually more than a simple board-approved salary typical for an elected super. The board will usually create a sweeheart contract for a prticular indiividual they view as desirable, giving them housing allowance, etc. Then, many school boards have had to terminate their contracts early becasue for poor performance or wrongdoing and pay through the nose because their contracts state that the super gets all the salary through the end of his/her contract regardless. Then the school board also gets sued because of wrongful termination, etc. We know how the law works. None of this expense is incurred with an elected official. The other problem is that the supers they hire arent necessarily better. We in Monroe county have always had a profesional educator who the people elected, like Lannon or Walker, or even Bookie. This is the first time Im aware of that we've had someone other than a former principal with educational credentials in that office. The school board is aware of some things that an educator does, but not many things. School board members themselves are rarely educators and guess at educational processes for the first few years until they learn a few things, and are quite frankly not very knowledgabe about actual educational law, etc. You might think they are but the public should be aware that there is layer upon layer of federal, state, and local educational law requirements that make the job very very difficult even for a seasoned administrator. The school board routinely approves documents as a matter of course (like special education proceedures, or federal grant programs) that I dare say board members understand little if anything about. They must appove these documents yearly as a matter of timliness, but really they are very uneducated on the documents. So, having said that I think we should proceed very cautiously in choosing to move to an appointed system, Its not necessarily better becasue board members may pick a super based on one trait (like business or accounting) but overlook educational expertise. The people can probably make a better choice in an election. If you think youre angry now that we've had an elected super go bad, just wait until we have a bad super that the board hired and we incur all sorts of expenses to get rid of him/her.

Good Points but what about

the simple fact that an election is just too limiting. When Padgett was appointed by the Governor he had one year in and then chose to run in 2004. His only challengers were Pedro Fraga, a hair dresser, and I think someone else but I am can't recall, in the Republican primary who Padgett easily defeated and then of course Randy Acevedo on the Democrat side. Only one of the candidates had ever had the experience and education that would be minimally required for an appointed position and that was Pedro Fraga who didn't even make the primary. Then of course in 2008, Randy had only one challenger, Fred Colvard who had excellent credentials but was for the most part ignored by those in the education community. The mantra was that Randy was the greatest, most visionary super... Fred did the best he could to bring out the truth but in the end his message was lost. If you look at the candidate expense reports which are available online, you can see that a general election can cost anywhere from 40k to 100k. This means a candidate needs an extensive network of financial support or they must be independently wealthy. This alone is a great deterrent for people who may have the necessary educational/administrative background because in general those kind of book smart people are usually not the most popular and you cannot run a successful election without being popular. Another fact is that when Randy got elected, he created additional administrative and non-teaching positions as political favors. This way he could ensure loyalty from the top because many of them knew that someone like Fred would get rid of those positions. During the campaign, whenever I would try to talk to people about Fred Colvard, many school people just didn't want to hear it, they only cared about Randy because "they liked him" They knew he didn't have the qualifications but many would say things like "I can talk to Randy, I don't know Fred." That is human nature. I think we have a more knowledgable board than you may care to admit. Pribramsky and Dick are "on it" and I have watched many board meetings when they have proven their knowledge of current rules and regulations supersedes those in Randy's administration. Like you, I used to think the elected position was better, but after I saw how easily it is for the general public to be convinced of lies through Randy's propaganda, I think we need to move forward and ask for qualified people to apply so we can make a selection that will most benefit the students. The elected system just doesn't bring out the best and even if it did there is guarantee that the people will choose the best over a friend or someone they know.

In my opinion,

You're pretty much dead on.Randy was very likable.That's the main reason he was chosen.(It begs saying,at this point,that he is still very likeable.Just much less capable(at best) than earlier thought).Colvard seemed to be the "unknown".Who did we really "know" the best?Far more important,now, is your statement about positions as political favors ensuring loyalty from the top.Is anyone that's objective disputing that this happened?This meticulously created organization has no need whatsoever for Randy to "lead" them.They are perfectly capable of "leading" themselves.And every single one of them (oops,where's Ms. St.James?)is STILL right in thier cushy chairs....

She's on a whirlwind tour of....

huh? What? Where the heck is she anyway?You say she only speaks through her lawyer?That doesn't sound like our beloved Ms. St. James? She has always been so likeable,too.She was almost worshiped. My niece thought the world of her at Key Largo Elementary.Now we get her pitbull lawyer ordering grownups to apologize for even gently questioning her actions in supervising Ms. Acevedo.It is precisely this in your face, blustery rightousness that tells you something is VERY wrong here.

Really?

Can't see as how they could be any more expensive than Randy & Monique have been.

Past Superintendents

John Padget was a recent superintendent that was not a former principal or educator. He was appointed by Jeb Bush.

Past Superintendents

John Padget was a recent superintendent that was not a former educator. He was a businessman and appointed by Jeb Bush. Dr. Peggy Smith was passed over for the Super's job. She was a former principal, former Superintendent, and past Commissioner of Education for the State of Pennsylvania. She is now a superintendent in another county in Florida.

good point

your comment about past superintendents is right on the money. often, politicians are elected because they a likable and not so qualified as with President Obama who has more experience as a community organizer than as a senator. with randy, people who voted for fraga with the experience, turned around and voted for randy. why? because he passed the "likable guy" test. padget, although incredibly smart, gave people an uncomfortable feeling, almost as if his money and college degree put him on a separate planet that the average voter could not relate to. the good and effective politicians are the ones that have both brains and likability. they do exist and i want the power to vote that person up or down. i have no confidence in the school board to make that decision for me behind closed doors. i urge people to wake up and register to vote and use your power. i am sorry to say that i have heard well educated people say they don't even bother voting because they don't think it will make a difference. that apathy needs to stop and taxpayers and voters need to vote and let these clowns know when enough is enough.

I Could Not Have Said It Better

I rest my case. JFKulick

yeah lets let a Bush lead

yeah lets let a Bush lead us. They did such a good job before. How is the economy?

But ... But ... But ...

Then they wouldn't be a bubba!

Voters Need the Power of Recall

I can't believe you don't trust the fine citizens of this county to do their homework before they vote! If they don't get it right then they need to petition for a recall referendum. Vote on chartering this county and bring the citizens into the sunshine of democracy. Let them stand united for a common purpose in righting a wrong rather than relinquishing their authority to a few who will determine qualifications. JFKulick

Acevedo won by a land slide.

Acevedo won by a land slide. We didnt even come close to getting it right.

WE got it very wrong...

Because Acevedo was propted up by his mentors Henriquez and Fraga, who still support Acevedo to this day.

Then Let Them Eat Their Cake!

The majority chose bolita, corruption, greed, graft, payola, kickbacks, nepotism, cronyism, and favoritism; why fight it? . . . Let the voters figure out how to fund an education for their kids when the money is all gone! Bubba's deserve to be incestuous and greedy; it's their legacy. I'm leaving this archipelago island as soon as I am able. I will not associate with a community that denigrates and excludes selfless public service, innovation, creativity, and success. My child deserves better.

don't let the door hit you on the way out....

really, you should read the editorial for today about all of us working together. you are probably one of the haters posting all the negative comments on this website. i will pray for the folks in the next town you decide to live in. they will need it.

I believe you are mentioned negatively in the editorial as well.

Your very title says it all. Vicious and venomous comment. OH, and I see the use of the popular term from your 'talking points memo' is there: Haters.

How far does your proposal go?

Do we apply it to all our key institutions; The Sheriff, the SA, Judges, Tax collector, on and on? JFKulick

ALL POLITICAL OFFICE

AND their unaccountable appointees

Would the judge have let the Aceveto's out without bail if he thought he could be recalled?

why dont we elect beat

why dont we elect beat patrol, generals, teachers, janitors, principals, and cabinet posts for the president? Let us makme all public jobs elected? That will really make things run smooth.

Just Admit the Obvious

The voting public got it wrong. Just because we were two eggs short of a dozen doesn't mean we will get it wrong on the next ballot. Let's face facts the Sheriffs Office and the School District is wasting our money on bad programs and bloated admistrative staffs. The ratio of administrators to teachers and patrolmen is way out of whack and we can do something about that in the next ballot. Allowing politicians to pick the top job is wrong! Would you like to witness a fiasco if our Senate or House picked president of the United States? Wouldn't like ugly would you! BTW I voted Colvard and Davis for informed reasons; check your letters to editor history, I'm on record. JFKulick

The electoral college picks

The electoral college picks the president not the people. Learn your civics. Plus you elected some one who had no experience in the schools, we dont elect usual some one who has never been a cop to sherrif do we? Or have the electoral college appoint someone who has nothing to do with politics or government to the precidency? The people and the politicians can pick some one who knows how to educate children not just push numbers and appoint friends. Come off it. Florida is one the worst rated states for education, look at some of the top rated states and you will find appointed administrators with education back grounds running the job.

What is Qualified, The person or the Ego?

The electoral college is supposed to represent the will of the electorate. I heard Ken Davis, who has no background in education, applied to the Governor for condideration of appointment to the super's vacancy. Ken Davis has no qualifications for the position. Do you think Crist will sacrifice his political career and disregard the apparent sentiment of Monroe counties citizen's for a qualified appointment? Just how cynical are you, to think I need instruction in civics? JFKulick

Who one is 2000? and who did

Who one is 2000? and who did the people pick?

Who one

Huh???????????

Here's an idea

Judges should not be allowed to have been attornys (or members of the Key West Yacht Club)

Some common sense is long overdue

KWYC

Yep, lots of politicking goes down at the Yacht Club--oh to be a fly on the wall there on Friday afternoons. Well, they probably don't have any flies in a place that exclusive, but you know what I mean.

BINGO!

Sometimes it takes very few words....

Either way,

Appointed or elected; the key is to publish the candidates educational/business/leadership related qualifications as well as personal experiences to better inform the voters of the caliber of official they are admitting to an important and vital position within their county. The problem, however, with electing a new superintendent is that those who wish to run from outside of the community or state have little-to- no chance of being considered, unless they have [recently] moved into the county. Having a successful business background is helpful for the fiscal/monetary operations of the corporation, but having education experience is equally as important. Add to that a sense of duty to the students and taxpayers, and you just may find a great candidate!

We did publish it.

We did publish it. Acevedoes main qualification was that he was born here and raised his family here. The other canidate had a few masters and a doctorate I believe all relating to education. We elected an over weight (yes that does have meaning since americas youth is slowly going down the road of obessity) computer programer.

Bull

Randy had four positve years and was re-elected as a result. Aside from his wife running amuck Randy has done a pretty good job. He just couldn't keep his wife in line.

Why on earth

would you settle for someone who does (did) a "pretty good job"? Wouldn't you rather have someone that does and excellent job?

Bull?

Running amuck?Who in the heh are you to disrespect his wife that way??..As of 6/21/2009 they have done absolutely"nothing wrong"."She can explain "all questionable charges".He is every bit as confident as he was in the very beginning that he can "fix this".At every level from the top(especially)on down at MCSD,there is still very strong support for them.And by the way, she has pled 'not guilty'.The last time I checked that meant "NOT" guilty.Of anything.

Pretty good job?

The only good job he did was to look the other way. He's either guilty of knowing and ignoring the problem (complicity) or he is guilty failure to supervise her (dereliction of duty). Either way you look at it , it only went this far because he failed. His loyalty was misguided as is "Bookie's". He seemed to be more concerned with protecting his wife than executing the responsibilities of his office. Not all conchs are Bubbas.

Randy Hasn't a Clue

Pick a debate with him on the merits of educational program funding from State and Federal programs versus subsidies of no child left behind or FCAT achievement and you will soon discover that he has no clue that the two are not linked. He's an overweight underachiever.

Double Bull

Randy [allegedly] lied and helped his wife [allegedly] defraud the distict of three quarters of a million dollars that we know of so far. There were many problems in the district. Here are a few- million dollar real estate blunders (Harris school & Marathon manor), Red ink spending even as our revenue increased, declining SAT and AP scores, creating escessive administrative positions and non-teaching positions (even while some teachers experienced increased class sizes), & the creation of district exams increasing the number of days students spend testing instead of learning (and don't give me the bull that that was a state mandate- the state provided other options that the district refused to look at). These are just a few things that come to mind so stop drinking the koolaid. This is more than just a wife's spending problem.

Wouldn't Three-out-of-Five chosen Randy?

The best part about an appointed administrator is that they can be removed without having to wait for the governor. Hopefully, at the next election, the board member who has been the most resistant to moving forward will be removed. I can't take a whole lot more of Dr. Walker.

Walker needs to go.

Can't wait til 2010 to get rid of Ms. "that's the way we've always done it" Walker.

Remember in the real world, Randy wouldn't have gotten

an interview to be a Superintendent. Minimum qualifications for hired Superintendents is a Master's in Education and extensive experience in educational administration and teaching, but most have doctorates. Randy had none of these and wouldn't have gotten through the application process.

Monroe County Deserves National Search for School Chief

First, if you're going to mention Gastesi, at least spell the man's name right. Mr. Gastesi could be a great County Administrator, but he is going to have to get some brass balls and get some of the bumbling, do gooder, give away the revenue commissioners off his back. Second, the Monroe County School District owes it's children the best school chief search we can afford. Third, as residents who claim to care about the future of our County, we need to understand that this is the 21st Century and if we are to survive in the manner in which we've become accustomed to we can not continue to run the County and MCSD like a banana republic. Fourth, we have a responsibility to Monroe County kids to provide them with the best quality education our tax dollars can buy, so that in the event they choose to leave this rock they can compete with the best the mainland has to offer. Remember, an education, especially a quality education is something that can not be taken away from you. That should be our gift to Monroe County kids whether they are in our school system one day or twelve years.

Treat the job like we treat County Manager jobs

Take applications, and choose the most qualified. It's time we stopped this Bubba train.

It is simple

Next election, put the position on the ballot as well as a referendum to make the position appointed. If the referendum passes, the person elected doesn't get the position. It would also give the appointment board some idea who the people want in the position but is non-binding.

Yep

Yep that's a great idea. Let's make the Superintendent answerable to 5 people instead of all of us!
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