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Diver dies on new shipwreck

A 51-year-old Texas man died while diving on the Vandenberg wreck Friday afternoon, authorities said.

Richard McCoy Jr. of Cypress was on his first dive of the day with the M/V Spree, a dive charter based at Robbie's Marina on Stock Island, when the incident occurred about 12:10 p.m.

McCoy, who was diving with two instructors, had been down for about 20 minutes and was at 95 feet when he began having unknown trouble, according to a Monroe County Sheriff's Office press release.

They began helping him to the surface, but he stopped breathing, so they rushed him the remaining 25 feet to the surface, sheriff's spokeswoman Becky Herrin wrote.

The M/V Spree notified the Coast Guard about 12:20 p.m., agency spokesman Matthew Meinhold said.

McCoy received CPR en route to the Coast Guard station, and paramedics continued CPR en route to Lower Keys Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead, Herrin said.

The Sheriff's Office is investigating and took his dive equipment into custody for examination. The Medical Examiner's Office is conducting an autopsy to determine the cause of death.

McCoy had flown into Miami and bused to Key West Thursday with a group of people on an organized dive trip.

Learning from mistakes

"McCoy recieved CPR on the way to the Coast Guard Station". As we were watching the boat race in the harbor, we noted the Coast Guard craft winding its way thru Tank and Wisteria Islands and the moored spectator boats and finally to the station. When minutes matter, wouldn't it have been quicker to take the injured diver directly to Stock Island and transfer him to an ambulance to the hospital?

time

well after probably 30 mins with no breathing, CPR at that point is just a formality....going through the motions. as harsh as that sounds...its the truth. if you haven't got them back in the first few mins...you likely are not going to.

Spree and safety regulations

The captain of the Spree, his DM/wife, and all those aboard run a VERY tight ship. They take all safety measures possible to ensure that divers have safe dives. And yes, he will judge the current and weather accordingly before putting the divers and crew at risk. I have personally witnessed the Captain refunding thousands of dollars to groups that were blown out due to the weather. I have no vested interest in Key West charters. I have no boat. I am not a scuba instructor or close friend of the deceased diver or or the crew aboard the Spree. I am simply a diver who travels to Key West from out-of-state and I've used the Spree's services. I can guarantee that Captain Frank would NEVER willingly put someone in harms way, nor would he abide by an unskilled or untrained divers doing a dive from his ship if he didn't think the divers was prepared for. Anyone who has ever dove with this outfit knows the cardinal rule aboard the Spree- DON'T DO STUPID. Anyone who is saying otherwise about the MV Spree and her crew obviously has 1) never been a guest diving from the ship, or 2) are using this poor man's tragic accident to stir up business for the competition. I wasn't there at the time of the incident but I can say without a doubt that Cap't Frank and his crew responded in a timely manner to the best of their ability given all the circumstances involved. I don't know what happened to Mr. McCoy at 95fsw but I do know that rebreathers (the equipment he was using) are relatively new technology and can be finicky. It requires the diver to be much more diligent in the preparation and much more attentive to the sensors throughout the dive than a traditional OC (open circuit/ "air" tank) diver. This is just a very unfortunate accident that has people blame storming and name calling. Out of respect for Mr. McCoy's family and the rescuers involved, please stop slinging the mud around and try to collectively gain knowledge from the incident to help prevent another. D.B. Houston

Well put.

Here here! On all accounts. My prayers and condolences to the diver's family and my sympathies to those involved that day. ~A previous Spree customer.

Spree

We were diving from Bonsai about 50 yds from Spree at the time of the accident. We were tied into the superstructure, Spree tied into the bow. Spree is about a 150 ft boat with about a ten foot dinghy "chase boat" which appeared inadequate for supporting the dive operation. Prior to the accident we witnessed another Spree diver come up in a free ascent away from Spree, and it took way too long to recover the diver. First they threw in a line which did not reach the diver about 50 yds behind their boat. Then a diver jumped overboard with tanks aparently to get the diver, but the diver quickly realized that was a bad idea and got back on Spree. Then they finally launched the dinghy, and it took over 5 minutes to get the small outboard started. The girl in the dinghy did not appear to have a handheld radio and definitely did not have a lifejacket on. All in all it took over 15 min to recover the first diver who was not in distress. I was down below on the wreck when the accident occured and did not witness the accident or see the diver in distress. Three others in our group who were on Bonsai at the time saw a safety sausage on the surface for a few minutes before the three divers surfaced, and they were quite a ways from Spree. When I came up I saw the CG boat departing. Apparently there was another fishing boat in the area who came to assistance, and we thought it was the fishing boat that called the CG. We did not know there was an accident till we got home and read it in the paper. That's all I know.

just curious

Bonsai aren't you the jackasses that broke the law and dove the wreck before it was deemed SAFE? and you badmouth an operation for an accident like this?? classy!!!

Bonsai

We were a dive charter on Bonsai that day, not part of the crew. I don't have a horse in this race, and I am not trying to badmouth any operation. Just relaying what we observed, hopefully for the betterment of future diving. I have seen this type of back-and-forth disrespectful conversation on this blog, and I don't think it benefits anyone. We were a paying charter, and travelled 1300 miles to dive this wreck. I assume that the Conch Republic of Key West and the dive industry in the Keys wants more charters/business, so I think a healthy discussion of this tragic incident and a firshand unbiased observation of what went on would be of interest to the dive community.

Sounds like a Chinese Fire Drill !!

Having worked in diving myself, it should not take 15 minutes to retrieve a diver who is not in distress.

Vandenberg diving incident 11/13/09

This is in response to the anonymous writer criticizing the "Big Blue Boat" and management in the "booth". Since you hide behind anonymity, the source of your information and your credentials to offer any opinion are put in doubt. Perhaps my being a scuba instructor with several agencies allows some authority to a differning opinion. As the survivor of the Spiegel Grove accident 2-1/2 years ago, a member of the Vandenberg sinking committee, and a regular rebreather diver on the Vandenberg, I offer rebuttal. Oh, by the way, did I mention that I dive virtually exclusively on the Sea Eagle with Captain's Corner? As such, I have personally seen money refunded to divers who were not able to "make the grade". I have also seen the captains and crew firsthand conduct all activities with utmost safety and to allow the divers to have a good experience. Unfortunately, some divers are not truthful with their own experience or limitations and thus they put themselves in harms way (that cannot be the fault of any dive operator). The sea conditions are best determined by the boat captains when they are able to personally observe them (unless the Coast Guard has already advised explicitly otherwise). There has been no directive in my observations to "batten down the hatches, full steam ahead" to the detriment of safety. Quite frankly, the converse has been my personal experience. I close by offering condolences to the family and friends of the deceased diver; and solace to his instructors, the crew of the Spree and all involved medical personnel. We all need to learn from incidents such as these to make diving as safe as it can be. If you truly believe in your sentiments, then do not hide behind an anonymous mask but step in to the light of day with your facts to make every dive operator in Key West the best that can be offered. I expect to be diving after Thanksgiving and into the beginning of December with Captains Corner. Come out and say hello to me. Howard Spialter

Well, Howard you should get

Well, Howard you should get along just great diving with that operation. If memory serves correct, you and your buddies flaunted every rule of wreck penetration/tec diving as well as violating the rules of the USCG and the diving community. You and your friends came to our wreck and slowly pried away at an area that had been sealed off because it was UNSAFE for entry. You did not bring all of the REQUIRED safety equipment to perform that penetration dive, and you, through your PRUDENT judgment as an instructor for many agencies, planned for and assisted your friends in their untimely deaths. You also placed our safety and rescue divers at risk as they had to go in and retrieve the bodies- from an area where they never should have gone! You should get along just great diving with the gang that throws safety and diving standards right out the window. Sorry to put it to you, but you don't live here and see what we see...

Anonymity - how convenient

Anonymous - as a resident of Key West, I do have some personal knowledge of activities on our "small island". Maybe not as much knowledge as you. However, you have zero personal knowledge of what occurred in the unfortunate accident 2-1/2 years ago. Would you be able to be so harmful and hurtful if you had an identity? I doubt it. HS

Howard it sounds like you and C.C. are a matched pair

and your ego is larger than your common sense. I dove the Valve wreck in the harbor with another "expert " dive instructor. First thing we agreed upon was to not penetrate the wreck. He violated immediately. Putting himself and my crew at risk. We don't need your type in our industry. 3o years in this industry has taught me that I DON'T have to prove myself by doing risky dives. Even Billy Dean , who I consider to be the top of the industry standard and pioneer. Knew when to STOP.

sea conditions observed by the captain ?

everyone knows that if it's 25-30 out of the east with wind against the tide you don't have to "be there" to observe conditions to know it's going to be bad.

conditions

wind was 15-20kts out of the north with 2ft seas. not exactly rough conditions for a 100ft dive boat.

Sorry Howard but

How about your Captains getting off the boat to go spearfishing with customers onboard ? Then bragging to the customers about how much he was going to make by selling them illegally to a nearby charter boat.Relying on other dive vessels to "return" your divers that get swept off the wreck. Or the illegal aliens often hired and working past thier visa's, or the fact the vessels run lobster and spear trips without the required permits.. Personally I really liked the night one of your captains got drunk , and "stole" Sea eagle but couldn't get it out of the slip , bouncing it off the vessels beside it. So don't challenge me about how sloppily that outfit is run , because I've got lots more. This a small town and there are few secrets. Which the crew shares when they "belly up to the bar"

Age

A study was done by one dive agency years ago on diving and age. It pointed out that the most at risk diver on a dive charter was a male between 45 and 55 that had not had a heart "incident". Basically some pains that caused him to see a Doctor. If you're in that age group please get a checkup.

A few years back i did some

A few years back i did some diving in Cuba and was pleasantly surprised when a doctor, part of the dive crew, tested everyones blood pressure before leaving the dock. My dive buddy had borderline high blood pressure so we visited shallow 40' reefs. The moral of the story is make sure you are in good shape before you dive shallow or deep. You can test your own blood pressure free at many Key West pharmacys, a good practice to get in to.

Well,we hoped to make it to the first anniversary....

We knew that was hoping beyond hope. "Being all you can be" rhetoric applied to recreational diving, even when people are unprepared, assures that the list under this man's name will unfortunately grow quickly.While I know nothing of the details here,medical or otherwise, I do know that he had (2) instructors w/ him, two more than most that dive that wreck, and they couldn't save his life,no matter how good they were. Do I need to remind you, we are doing this for "fun"? This is "recreational" diving. We don't force anyone to do this. But we do advise them as to when they are "ready'. A huge responsibility for our industry.We, as a group, are culpable to some degree. Just ask any underemployed lawyer....

It wasn't a matter of IF a diver would die on the Vandenberg

It was a matter of WHEN. It will be interesting to hear the facts, if they can be found.

And your point is??? Did the

And your point is??? Did the shipwreck kill the diver? Would he have been fine if he was diving a different wreck?

It's an advanced dive that requires certain skills & definitely

optimum health. This wreck CAN kill divers who are not prepared or are not in good health. And yes indeed, he may have been fine if he were diving the Alexander or something not so treacherous.

Correct

Exactly which dive site in the Keys have not had a death. Either snorkeling, or diving. I don't think there is one so don't blame the site.

even Cottrell

has had a snorkeling death back in '88

sad news

The diving community is saddened by this news. Accidents are inevitable on a wreck like this, but a death, only six months after the sinking, is sobering news indeed. Our hearts go out to this man's family, and we must all remember to be more cautious when diving a wreck of this depth and complexity.

suprised this didn't happen sooner

though in this case the person seems to have been well supervised., Too many divers have been treating the Vandenberg as though it's a routine reef dive. It is not; it is an advanced dive that needs to be taken seriously. Also as of recently many charters have been diving the wreck in poor weather conditions which push most divers beyond thier training. One local six pack charter, the Captain actually gets in the water with his divers leaving his boat unattended. A dangerous and risky situation. Not to mention against Coast Guard regulations. Perhaps some operators will take a lesson of caution from this unfortunate event and rethink the practice of some vessel's going out regardless of weather conditions. Big Blue Boat , I'm directing this at your operation,you take too many chances. You shouldn't let your management sitting in a booth , who hasn't been on a boat in decades determine your weather policies. Sometimes it is prudent to stay on the dock and not put a customer at risk just because you want thier 100 bucks. In closing , my sympathy goes out to this unfornate diver and family.

I sincerely doubt that the owner of the Big Blue Boat calls the

trips. That is the captain's call and he has plenty of info at hand to make the decision. And, I'm not aware of many companies locally charging $100 for a dive trip.

the captain...

captain of the "big blue boat" (m/v spree) IS the OWNER!!!

cost of dive with rental equipment

comes out to around 100 dollars with a computer

Diver was experienced

Perhaps it's unintentional, but your post implies that this was an inexperienced diver, in addition to the comment that he was well supervised. Rich McCoy was not only an experienced diver, he was an experienced rebreather diver, with over 50 hours logged using the same unit (see http://seaduction.com and click on Vandenberg in the upper left corner). "The deceased diver is reported to have been an experienced rebreather diver with more than 50 hours logged on the unit he was diving." I question whether the "technical diving instructor candidate and his instructor trainer" were actually there to supervise Rich's dive or whether he was with them simply to have someone with whom to dive. I'm not a diver, but I'm aware that diving alone, no matter how simple the dive, is a big no-no.

I've known Rich's wife for over 20 years, and she and their two sons are in need of compassion and prayers, not criticism (intentional or not) and speculation. I'm sure you weren't criticizing Rich and am really just responding to the "well supervised" comment by sharing what knowledge I have of his diving experience and my assumption (and yes, it is an assumption, not fact) that the other two divers were not necessarily supervising him specifically - though I will be the first to admit I may be wrong. The coming days will, I hope, bring the actual facts to light.

Gretchen
Houston, TX

There are many questions to be answered

And one has to wonder why the radio operator on the MV Spree was on the radio for all to hear in the Key West marine community, calling the Coast Guard saying that the diver was 'floating away'? If there were two experienced divers with the deceased, why would he be floating away? There's a skiff on the Spree, so why didn't a safety diver or rescue diver take the skiff to retrieve the diver? Indeed - many questions and since it was all on the open air waves for the entire community to hear as it happened, it will be difficult to hide the facts, IMHO.

the skiff WAS launched as

the skiff WAS launched as soon as the divers surfaced

tragedy

xx

starts with the training pool there at CC.

the nastiest, filthiest . cup of black algae and scum I've ever seen. qualifies for a night dive. The health department needs to look at it.

comments better than the actual story

I love how the comments bring out what the news writer can't print. The dirty details rise to the surface.
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