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Sheriff, union locked over pay

A dispute between Monroe County sheriff's deputies who want better pay and a new sheriff who says his hands are tied by the ailing economy is headed for an impasse hearing Monday.

"We're definitely at an impasse," Sheriff Bob Peryam said Friday. "The things I've said in the past still hold true. I wish I could give them everything they're asking for. I don't disagree with them. They are underpaid. It's a matter of money. It's not there."

The Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 28 union has been at loggerheads with Peryam since September, when they overwhelmingly rejected his proposed employment contract.

A special magistrate ultimately may decide on a one-year contract should the negotiations fail again. Peryam and the union also could ask the County Commission for the money, but the budget is already set, Commissioner Kim Wigington said Friday.

Peryam was not confident that an agreement would be reached next week should negotiations during the special hearing fail.

"We're in one of the worst economic times since the Great Depression," Peryam said. "Unfortunately, it comes down to dollars and cents. My stance is, OK, I don't disagree with them, I just don't have the money."

Peryam has proposed a 4 percent pay raise only for road patrol deputies and sergeants who earn less than $70,000 a year over the next five years. Administrators and civilian employees would not receive a salary hike.

"These guys have not had raises in three years," said John Puleo, the regional union representative. "They keep crying, 'No money, no money,' but do they always have to cut off employees' backs?"

Of 146 deputies who are union members, all 116 who voted rejected Peryam's contract. Deputies want to be paid for overtime instead of getting compensatory time, often referred to as "comp time."

The proposed contract also eliminated a step-pay plan that ensured deputies had a fixed framework of salary ranges and raises. In exchange for that concession, deputies two years ago agreed to forgo vacation pay.

"I was there Wednesday and I think we're close," Puleo said. "But the sheriff doesn't want to pay overtime. We want to be compensated for that. That's a big hurdle. That and the step-pay plan."

Peryam said his deputies make about 14 to 18 percent less than competing agencies in South Florida, but said his hands are tied to a tight Monroe County Commission budget. The County Commission told him he could not increase his budget over last year.

The sheriff said he already eliminated 59 positions to afford the proposed 2 percent cost of living adjustment and 2 percent merit raise. Peryam said he also was stymied by recent news that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) no longer will house its female detainees at the Stock Island jail. That contract was worth at least $1 million a year.

"We're talking about $786,000 a year in overtime money, a rough estimate," Peryam said. "Coupled with the loss of the ICE contract, now I'm down nearly $2 million."

alinhardt@keysnews.com

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Put in Sandy Downs

and let all fire up a joint and munch out.

As a retiree from the Sheriff's Office, I am so glad I was able

to leave early, but most deputies cannot and have to stay employed. Since leaving Monroe County, I can tell you that some counties have reduced deputies pay, but these counties are paying MORE than Monroe in the first place and are replacing pay with other benefits. If Peryam so badly wanted deputies to have a raise, why does he not go to Tallahassee and fight for it, as is his RIGHT??????????? I don't believe he speaks with a truthful tongue, afterall, he has more pay than he ever had before, why should he bother????

Exactly what do the Sheriffs do?

For the past three weeks I've been traveling every day from Key West to Key Largo and back. I have yet to see a Sheriff on patrol. Where do they hide? Where are the donut shops? I did see a City of Key West patrol car in Islamorada, are the Sheriffs using decoys?

What do Sheriffs do?

I wish I had a nickle for every time I have heard that. However, it is strange how your attitude would change if you really, really needed a cop. Then you would be very happy to not only have a deputy respond but would put your trust in him/her to solve your problem. Get a life and quit putting down people who would give up their life for you.

Exactly, what do the Sheriffs do?

The Sheriffs in MC would not knowingly risk their life for any taxpayer. All they want to do is milk us like dairy cows. If I have to trust a Sheriff or a potentially bad guy, I'll trust the bad guy.

And we recently made a trip to and from Miami and the road

was crawling with MCSD cars. None were making stops or even 'patrolling' that we could tell. We assumed they'd found a source of hot donuts and were en route to retrieve said donuts.

Just look at different

Just look at different people that got promoted, got better jobs, got hired, etc. It conincides with the people you saw at every rally, every fundraiser, get-together, etc that was held for Peryam. The real rank and file were suckered into thinking the change was near by the newly-promoted and look what they got. A big goose egg. If it wasnt for the OT the deputies are fighting for, imagine how many less deputies would be on the street.

Do the MAth

Unfortunately there are no economists in the FOP. The malcontents rise to the top of union leadership. Don't they read any articles on the economic conditions? Peryam offered 4%; Miami Dade took a 5% CUT. The FOP is the equivalent of the United Auto Workers, and look what they did to GM, Chrysler, and Ford.

The Fop offered to accept the 4% and continue negotiations

on the other points of the contract, but the administration declined to accept the offer. The Sheriff's Office wanted to take away vacation time. They also proposed to give "comp time" (which is in lieu of overtime) at a rate of 1 hour of "comp" for 1 hour worked over. If you are going to receive "comp time" instead of overtime it should be given at the federally mandated time and a half. When a road deputy takes time off, be it "comp time" or vacation time it does not cost the taxpayer or the Sheriff's office anything, as they are not replaced by anyone, the shift works short handed. So to say this is over money is a grave misrepresentation of the facts.

AND THERE WERE NO BRAIN SURGEONS EITHER UNTIL YOU CAME ALONG

The FOP has been fighting this fight a long time and the one thing they know is that there is money for a raise. The problem is that the Sheriff wants to take away a lot of long held benefits including vacation time, health insurance, comp time versus overtime,etc.etc.. the deputies would accept 4% if the offer was not so destructive to the long held benefits that make the job worth taking. The real problem is the Sheriffs inability to restructure the department so as to favor the street cops who do all the work that designates the Sheriff's office as a police department. It would be easier if the Sheriff just dump the road cops and just maintain the court room and civil process. Hell sell the jail to the private sector. Then all he would have to worry about is the security at the courtroom and civil process. Heck hire rent a cops to protect the judge and BANG**##*. Now that will make it cheaper to run the sheriff's office in the millions!

UAW replaces FOP

Those 5 years of high school did you a lot of good. Look at the economic conditions and unemployment rate north of Vaca Cut, if you know that world exist. 4% is good. Or go work as a UAW rep for GM, you sound like your the type.

Wow a real live brain surgeon!!!!!

Do you really believe that the economy is so bad that only the fat cat administration can still recieve the over the top salaries that Roth installed when the economy was good. So no raise for the depuites who really work because you want to keep paying these huge salaries to people who do little if any real work when compared to the police officer who are risking life and limb to keep you safe fat and happy while you sit in your recliner watching CNN and bitching about everyone else. Maybe he went five years to get through high school. Its obvious you never made it through any real education. You would be able to spot the inequities in the pay at MCSO. You have to be an old pissed off anti cop type who routinely gets arrested for DUI.

Peryam promised a lot of things in order to get the Fop to back

him First he said he would rid the department of the Roth administration which was highly anti union and in turn anti deputy. Roth fought hard to not let the Union gain any real power. Roth had the money to give raises but he did not want to set any Union power precedents by cooperating with the union. Negotiations got heated and the truth of the administrations anti union sentiments showed brightly. Now Peryam who is Sheriff is following in those lines with the very same Roth administration. Peryam also promised to give back and improve vacation time, health insurance, and comp time versus overtime. The fop has been negotiating for years now. Anything they got for the deputies came with costs. What was needed to be done by Peryam was to find ways to change the way the money is being spent. This cutting of Deputy positions to raise money for raises is not good. I guess it is cutting the throat of the cow as you are milking it. Now the economy is bad and not many are getting raise any where. So the administration has ramped up its disdain for the run of the mill deputy. They are offering to take back every thing that the deputies are straining to keep such as cutting Vacation time and restricting more comp time. Four percent may have been taken by the deputies but all the other losses would have been horrible for them.

Peryam is the first winner

Peryam is the first winner the FOP has ever backed, but the FOP can't face current economic realities. The FOP backed Mandina (HAHA) every year he ran. Peryam is doing the best he can with what he has. Other agencies are taking pay and benefit cuts. Davis would have had the same problems, but he had never had to worry about budgets. Feds at the local level just get more money from Washington.

So what your saying is that both Peryam and Mandina

are of the same mold. They both lied to the FOP for their support!

Can the citizen verify this?

Did Bob Peryam really give away the road deputies 4% to corrections and admin? That is the rumor.

Yes, the Sheriff did give

Yes, the Sheriff did give the corrections deputies an additional 2% "bonus" at the begining of the county's fiscal year. The Sheriff also gave all "non union" aka administration staff an additional "bonus". Then the Sheriff cries to the taxpayers that there is no money. The FOP turning down the contract offered didn't have anything to do about money or the 4% that was offered. The FOP agreed to that part of the contract. They just wanted to continue talking about the other parts, but the sheriff's office wouldn't.

Not Quite

The corrections department are represented by Teamsters, not the FOP. The Teamsters reps knew a good deal when they saw it and the jail accepted the 4% raise. The exact same raise was offered to the road deputies, and the FOP turned it down. It's their own fault for not getting a raise.

PAY AND PROMOTIONS

I think the union Deputies would be more inclined to accept whatever was offered if the Sheriff hadn't promoted, and gave raises to, several high ranking employees. It's the old story "Management got raises so there's no money for the rank and file workers"

If Peryam would cut salaries of his overpaid administrators

maybe he could pay deputies more. Hey, how about getting rid of his air force? And what is with this 'step-pay' thing these days? These people think they DESERVE a raise just for being there long enough? They all need to realize this is a down economy and you don't get raises when the money isn't there.

Sheriff needs to go!

Check Sherriff Bob's new hires! you can get some of the mney from all the new Capitans he made for his friends who supported him. He is running the MCSO like his own kingdom. I don't see him cutting any of the upper brass to save money! in fact all he has done is created more administrators with bloated salaries. BOOOOO!

Here is the whine from the

Here is the whine from the FOP "Gee, if only (fill in the blank) were Sheriff, we'd get lots of money. Miami Dade got a 5% CUT this year. 4% for the FOP is a good offer.

FOP

Are the FOP and Puleo completely ignorant to the crumbled economy around us? In a time when 1 in 6 Americans have lost their jobs, this is not the time to be demanding overtime pay. I would have taken the 4% raise and renegotiated a better contract after the economy turns back around. It sounds like FOP members need a smarter adviser, or smarter members.

Get real...

It's the job of the FOP and union management to try to get the best for their membership, not to consider the economy or the greater good of mankind. County management needs to step up and raise the financial condition of the jurisdiction and work some sort of a deal with the union.

Good Luck

The Union endorsed and supported the anti-union candidates in the last election. They won't get any help or consideration from the people they wanted in.

Yea, ok.

And how did that work out? Hmmmmm. No raise again. Face it. Puleo does not know what he's doing.
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