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New fire station needed

The Stock Island fire station kitchen where firefighter Jay Rivera was cutting vegetables Friday looks more like a broom closet.

"Things are always cramped, but we make do," Rivera said.

The aging station off MacDonald Avenue is not even big enough to house an ambulance; it's parked outside. The supervisor's bedroom and office is the size of a utility closet. The beds appear to be made for children, and the washroom is really no more than a shed.

Station 8 is a piecemeal assembly and a nod to the ingenuity of the men who work there.

"We use every space," Lt. Gary Burgess said. "When I came to this station six or seven years ago, there wasn't a kitchen or storage area. No washroom, either. We've made some headway, but there's only so much we can do."

Monroe County Fire Rescue Chief Jim Callahan told the County Commission last week that Station 8, which was built in 1978, needs to be replaced.

"It's livable and its up to code, but the building is a dump," Callahan said. "There is a lot of disrepair. We have four firefighters per shift on duty there. Space is a premium there. I need more space."

One of the busiest stations in Monroe County, it responds to about 600 to 700 calls annually, a call volume that makes it a training station for incoming firefighters like Rivera, according to Burgess.

Callahan wants a new building that can house six to seven firefighters and four bays for modern vehicles, a tough proposition where the station is now.

"Now it becomes a question over where to find an affordable piece of property," Callahan said.

Property search

The county has $4.1 million budgeted for the new station, but the projected building costs alone are $3.5 million, Callahan said. That leaves just $600,000 in the budget for land.

A specific parcel has not been found, said Commissioner Kim Wigington, whose district includes Stock Island.

The County Commission earlier this year suggested land it owns at the end of Maloney Avenue.

"The Hickory House location will not work," Callahan said, referring to the name of a vacant restaurant on the parcel. "It's the wrong location and too small. This is all about response times as well. I need to have my guys in an area that will not decrease our response times."

Consolidating new county buildings that are in the works is one option, Wigington said.

The county is considering building a new Emergency Operations center and a new Public Works building. Wigington suggested adding a fire station and using one building for all three applications.

"That may be the way to go," Wigington said. "Why build three when we can build one and make it multifunctional, which would save tax money in the long run. The county is getting bogged down in building maintenance costs."

High priority

Callahan also is pushing for $2.6 million in upgrades to the Conch Key fire station and a new station on Long Key near Layton.

"Both are very expensive propositions," Wigington said, adding that replacing Station 8 is the priority. "I can remember the need for a new station on Stock Island being discussed as far back as 1992."

The county in October unveiled a modern $3.2 million fire station on Big Pine Key, another much needed new station as the stations on Big Pine Key and Stock Island represent most of the call volume, Burgess said.

Fire Station 13 on Key Deer Boulevard replaces a nearly 30-year-old facility known as the Big Pine volunteer station, which lacked housing for full-time firefighters and was ready to be condemned.

The Stock Island station is not far behind, Callahan said.

Yet the county should not rush the process, Wigington said.

"We don't need to be foolish and make quick and wrong decisions," she said referring to new county buildings. "It's a downright shame that the station has been neglected this long. The men who work there need to be commended. They've done a tremendous job."

Firefighters at Station 8 on Friday spoke about their call volume with pride. Rivera said a fellow firefighter named "Moose" for one would appreciate new sleeping quarters.

"His feet hang off the edge of his bed," Rivera said, laughing. "He's like 7 feet tall."

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Mr. Wow

HAHAHA... You guys are so funny, ok well you are right lets put the amount of people at the station due to the call volume, and what are most of the calls, hmmm.. medical? yup! so really the county only needs 2 or put 2 ambulances there because thats all station 8 runs! :-)

I three years

you'll be begging for the old gang of three......

With all due respect

has anyone done any kind of research about efficient operations? Obviously firefighters risk their lives to assist those in need and deserve respect, however if they are eating steak while the rest of us are eating Ramen noodles, perhaps the number of trucks needed in any given station (they have four, but only ever need 2 at one time for example)or it only takes 4 guys on one shift to do the job, but there should be 6-7 as per article, needs to be looked at. In these difficult financial times, it seems important to research the efficiency of our various operations and make sure they are cost effective. The idea to house several agencies in the same buidling, if feasible, makes sense.

with all due respect

The firefighters pay for their own meals. They are not supplied by the county or tax payers. If you are eating Ramen Noodles, don' hate on a firefighter that managed to get a good deal on a steak at Winn Dixie. The issue here is that the persons in charge of our hard paid tax dollars squander it away on trash like the old Hickorey House...not on decent buildings that are needed for Public Safety and hurrican shelters.

Wrong timing

Their is nothing wrong about asking for a new fire station if one is really needed. The only problem is that now is not the time to be asking for such things. The only thing that they are accomplishing by all this is getting the tax payers upset. They have to know that they are not going to get a fire station right now. I do not understand why they can not wait a little while longer. It seem as though they want to create controversy or hate within the community, which I can not figure out why.

Hickory House Fire Station

Why not put a fire station where the Hickory House is? The county already owns the land.

good idea

its obvious that the KWFD needs a new building. seems to me that the current location is grossly undersized, so let's grab this unused chunk of land develop it correctly, by that I mean put in an oversized building to accomodate for population growth. sell the old property, use its proceeds to partially offset the new building. hold a couple of fundraisers. No 1 wins the FD gets shortchanged.

Mr. Wow

Boo Hoo, Station 8 has it better than most fire depts in nation. No one told the county to put a rescue there, and a engine that doesn't fit, and also what the county doesn't know that the volunteers were staying there before there were even beds and the MCFR got jealous and said oh we can't have that and then a few months later... OMG there was paid firefighters.... I know I'm getting a reply from this so I'll be waiting... :-)

ms pansy

Seems to me you have no appreciation for the country's bravest. Since you're so bold, why don't you print out your post & place in front of your house? That way the local FD will know your opinion of them & let your trailer burn to the ground.

mr wow

STATION 8 NEEDS TOBE KNOECK DOWN , AND LET THE CITY OF KEY WEST TAKE OVER THE FIREFIGHITNG FOR STATIAN 8. STAION EIGHT WAS ONLY TO BE USE HAS STATION FOR THE FIRE TRUCK NOT TO BE USE HAS A SLEEPING, EATING, PARTYING STATION, MR WOW NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS ONLY A VOL. FIRE STATION THAT US TAX PAYERS PAY FOR. IBEEN BYE THERE AND SEEN BEERS CANS AND STRANCE LOOCKING PEOPLE AROUND THE STATION,

WHY DONT WE

Rebuild it two story ,with trucks on the bottom and living/sleeping above . Like the big boys have in other cities . It would conserve space and no need to find another location.

Stock Island fire station

I wonder who Mr. Wow is and what expertise he has in speaking about fire stations. I am a firefighter from Cleveland, Ohio and I was on Stock Island in October and saw Station 8. What a deplorable station! Mr. Wow is completely wrong when he says Station 8 has it better than most stations in the country. What ignorance! The building is so small that there isn't a fire truck or EMS unit made today that will fit inside. I noticed the fire truck (Pierce/International) had to sit outside because it can't fit in the station. Being exposed to the weather has a very detrimental effect on the truck and equipment. I wish all the so-called 'experts' on fire and rescue services would stick to what they know and leave the real work of saving people's lives to those of us who know what we are doing.

Here's your Reply Mr.WOW

1). "Station 8 has it better than most fire depts in nation" - Opinion is based on you working where?? Obviously you dont work in the Fire Service and voluntering in a social club doesnt count either. Most Stations in Fire departments ARE in better conditions than St.8 2). "No one told the county to put a rescue there, and a engine that doesn't fit" - Your Right noone told the county, The call volume of Stock Island demands there to be proper equipment and trained personnel to respond to the citizens of Stock Island, instead of responding from Station 9 (Big Coppitt) like it used to be, responce time is atleast 8 minutes faster. By the way...The Engine Fits, The Rescue is whats parked outside. 3). "what the county doesn't know that the volunteers were staying there before there were even beds and the MCFR got jealous and said oh we can't have that and then a few months later... OMG there was paid firefighters" - Lets get the facts straight, it wasnt jealousy that prompted MCFR to put paid Firefighters at Station 8 and other fire stations, The Economy has taken an effect in the volunteer system and it isnt what it used to be. Volunteers are now working 2 or 3 jobs and are not able to respond like before. So MCFR is staffing stations accordingly with Zone call volume and budget restrictions.

Sell...sell...sell

Sell Drama Star and build your station.

Is this New York City???

How many fire stations do we have now in Key West? Why do we need MORE THAN ONE???? We have one now in the middle of town on a 2x4 mile Island.Less than 5 minutes drive to anyplace in town.. and probably less than 8 minutes to anyplace on Stock Island. This is not Manhattan boys? I know we like to give everyone born here a good paying job, but this is a little over the top!!

Give it up

There won't be a new Fire Station for Stock Island under this Commission. This should have been in this year's budget. Too bad the New Gang of Three didn't want it.

Drunken Sailors

To say the County spend our money like drunken sailors is unfair to drunken sailors

These building costs are rediculous

It's important

People live in these buildings, 24-7-365. These are the people you expect to save your life in a fire or accident. They deserve better.
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