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Monday, February 1, 2010
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Symptom of the times
More jobless, uninsured flock to free health fairs for care

Hundreds of people lined up outside Key West High School before 9 a.m. one recent Saturday for a health fair. One of them was Steve Lander, for whom the annual event suffices for his annual checkup, since he doesn't have health insurance.

"If you don't have health insurance it is better than nothing as an option," he said. "I've probably come to the health fair for about eight years. Because I don't have insurance, a dermatology test is $100 at the doctor's, but here it's free."

Lander also gets a free cholesterol check by donating blood about once a month.

"I get a total blood cholesterol count from the bloodmobile," he said, referring to the Community Blood Centers of South Florida. "Insurance would cost me about $600 a month for catastrophic health insurance; it's too expensive. If I get hit by a bus, my house is on the line (for medical costs). They go after your assets."

In these days of joblessness, limited income and lack of health coverage, many of the nearly 333 people who attended the Jan. 23 health fair were there for free medical tests, lifesaving advice and time with a physician because they don't have insurance or money for a doctor, health fair organizers said. This year's fair saw a 39 percent increase in attendees, from 240 in 2009, according to the Florida Keys Area Health Education Centers (AHEC). The Upper Keys health fair in November saw a 41 percent increase, from 203 last year to 287 this year, AHEC said.

"Keys AHEC offers year-round community health services, and the demand for those services has dramatically gone up in populations that historically have not accessed services in the past," CEO Michael Cunningham said. "About 85 percent of the people we saw at the Key West health fair either don't have health insurance or are underinsured."

AHEC, along with the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, also sponsored fairs in Marathon and Big Pine Key the same day.

"We'll probably end up helping about 800 people in the Keys today at all our sites," Cunningham said that day.

Health fair director Jacadi Bignami said the medical workers who staff the event have become de facto family doctors.

"People who don't have medical insurance attend every year to get their health checked and save money," said Bignami, a second-year Miller medical student who also staffs the booths with signs designating "pediatrics," "dermatology," "mental health" and more.

Kevin Daugherty attended the health fair in Big Pine Key. The 53-year-old lost his health insurance in his 2001 divorce, so he depends on the health fair for his annual checkup.

"I'm unemployed from landscaping and construction work," Daugherty said. "It's been my annual visit to the doctor."

Though the examinations and doctor's advice is free, attendees pay for lab work, albeit a nominal fee of about $15, Daugherty said. He also is on his own if he's told to get follow-up treatment.

"I've been having headaches for months, so I was told that I needed to get a CAT scan. I'll have to save up for one."

Mark Whitehouse, who lives on a boat near Key West, also depends on health fairs and other free services.

"I'm a cancer survivor by being proactive," said the lanky young man. "I'm surprised more people don't come by here to take advantage of the free services. I'm going to take the gamut of tests."

Pavel Ryslav, an Eastern European trailed by his wife and two kids, was in line at the vision testing room.

"My insurance doesn't cover anything," he said. "I brought my wife and kids along too, and it's a big help for us."

jguerra@keysnews.com

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The saddest thing about this

The saddest thing about this is that all these people so against Government Option Insurance are the ones who need it the most. Yes, even you with what you think are good plans today. Wait until you get sick and then you will be hit with all the limits and exclusions and co pays and deductibles. You will fight the insurance company every day while you are sick and dying and in the end you will lose your homes, all your savings, and be a burden to your families. If only Americans had more then a 5 second attention span, you might realize what a huge lie the Health Care Lobby and their big business friends in Congress, Senate and Fox News have hoisted on you. I only play I stay healthy until I am 65 so I can use that other socialist program: Medicare.

Put the Kool-Aid Down Lib- even OBAMA doesn't get it!

The man can't even pronouce 'corpsman' and you want HIM and the GOVERNMENT to run HEALTH CARE? Oh please! MOST AMERICANS are HAPPY with their health care. Don't have coverage - you're own fault. You obviously have no skills, a job that pays you nothing because you have no education and no intention of getting anything out of life except one big handout from the government. Look out for yourself for a change - get OFF YOUR BUTT and GET A REAL JOB THAT PROVIDES HEALTH INSURANCE! Oh sorry - you better leave the FL Keys to do that, get back into school for an education and get another career. YOU are a liberal democrats love - ignorant, lazy and feeling entitled. Quit getting your info from MSNBC, CNN and the other crap outlets who only tell one side of the story. And if you LOVE this plan so much - are YOU READY FOR HIGHER TAXES, LONGER LINES and LIMITED RATIONED CARE? Sorry - like 99 per cent of the population, I AM NOT!

First recommendation: Do NOT go to a Key West doctor. If they

will not give you a good cash rate, then walk away.

We have gone out of state many times for procedures and including air fare and hotel, we still came out far, far ahead financially.

As a matter of fact, last week while pricing a procedure locally, the 'office manager' bimbo on the phone told me "If you don't like it, then go to Miami. I don't care." Can you believe that??? And...I was just trying to tell her I'd rather do business locally than go out of town.

Y'know what, BIMBO? I will make it my personal agenda to be sure your BOSS knows you said that and lost business for him. I'm sure if I'm that upset, that there are 50 others just as angry with the arrogant treatmenet. Hopefully, Bimbo, you'll be eating bon-bons in front of Oprah sometime next month. In the meantime, I'll have had my procedure and be done and will never, ever call your doctor again. OH yes - and I'll be sure to send an email blast to my entire Key West email list consisting of about 250 citizens, telling them of the doctor's arrogance, his poor choice of 'office/financial manager' and the overall bad attitude towards his possible patients.

Health fairs are a great thing...

... and they always get good response. Why, oh why, must the haters turn a health fair into an opportunity to bash Obama and Haitians?

We send docs and aid to Haiti but we get nothing here but lies

Charity begins at home so quit bailing out the rest of the world and spend some of the hundreds of millions of dollars spent in other countries and corrupt foreign countries on the people who really need it most ---the citizens of the USA who are without a doctor or health care or medicine they need.

FORGET the socialist lib dems health care - THE GOP HAS IT RIGHT

But OBAMA RAMA won't listen to him because HE IS OUT TO SCREW YOU IDIOTS AND YOU JUST BEND OVER AND TAKE IT! Want to increase health care coverage for all but not at taxpayer expense? LISTEN TO THE GOP ideas - TORT REFORM for one, LET EVERYONE BUY OVER STATE LINES to reduce costs and get only the services you need and CUT TAXES instead of USING TARP FOR SPECIAL INTERESTS AND LOBBYISTS! Wake up AMERICA - you are being royally SCREWED by the LIBERALS and DEMS who CARE NOTHING ABOUT YOU just their own agenda and wallets! WAKE UP or HIDE YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND and don't blame the GOP for YOUR OWN STUPIDITY! IDIOTS!

TARP Started Under Bush/Cheney

Come on man, get your facts straight. The One Party Rule under Bush/Cheney exploded the defecit, left us in two wars, left one American city in complete disarray after a Hurricane, saw the twin towers destroyed despite the Clinton administration white paper telling Bush/Cheney that Al Qeada was planning a concerted attack on American soil, saw the Stock Market collapse, and a GOP Presidential candidate wanting to fly back to Washington D.C. mid-campaign to try and help straighten out the disaster the GOP ruled over. Meanwhile, Obama has been pushing the biggest pushbroom in history cleaning up the mess the GOP started and walked away from. Just like Sarah Palin, when the going gets tough, the GOP threw up its hands, became the party of "NO", shirks its reponsibities to the American people, and walks away from the disastrous policies it established in the name of the wealthy connected Military Industrial Complex. A great Republican President tried to warn us in his farewell address in 1961 (Dwight Eisenhower) that the biggest threat to this country was not Communism, but the Military Industrial Complex, whereby corporate policy directs foreign policy. Ike got it right as rain. Quit your crying, Repugs, as you're the Party which is destroying America.

Get use to the lines one OBAMACARE goes into practice

As a Canadian I say to all living in the USA wanting Health Care reform aka the Obama Health Care proposal - be careful what you wish for. Too many Canadians line up for hours (even days) in emergency rooms waiting for care. Don't have a doctor in Canada by the time you are 3 years old? You won't get one unless you put your name into a lottery in your province and hope in 5 years or so your name comes up. Doctor retires? Good luck with that one. And if you are over 55, you can kiss any health care goodbye in Canada - you aren't important enough to matter unless you want to pay out of pocket - and a lot of your income. Need an operation not considered a necessity? Like hip replacement or breast reconstruction? Even just an MRI? You'll wait, in pain, or in death, at least 1 year or more. Have some special needs child? Good luck - you'll be paying out of pocket and moving to a province that will provide services and health care (like Alberta but not Ontario). Sorry USA, you have NO idea what it's like in Canada. Private insurance is now a necessity in Canada to supplement what you can't get with national health service. Why do you think so many Canadians come to the US for treatment options or to other countries where health care is less? And Canada has how many less people? Get real USA - remember, Obama is your worst mistake. Don't let them fool you into our mess, or the UK's even worst mess.

86% of Canadians are very satisfied or somewhat satisfied w/ HC

My wife is Canadian. We've been reading the muckety muck written about Canadian healthcare and started laughing at the disinformation and misinformation. Get your facts straight, Key West Teabaggers:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/canadians-happy-with-primary-...

The largest survey on primary health care ever conducted in Canada found that most people have high praise for their family doctor, and a staggering 92 per cent would recommend their physician to a relative or friend.

Don't listen to pushers of fear concerning a change in American healthcare. It's the insurers who are making out like Robber Barons of Teddy Roosevelt's era, and as Teddy did, it's time to bust up the Insurance companies who've destroyed equitable healthcare in the USA. Meanwhile, the Canadians are not wanting a USA system of healthcare. Here's another eye-opening stat:

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/08/12-10

A recent report by Health Canada, entitled Healthy Canadians – A Federal Report on Comparable Health Indicators 2008, found that 85.2 per cent of Canadians were “very satisfied” or “somewhat satisfied” with health-care services overall. That level was unchanged from 2005, the last time the survey was conducted.

CANADA PREMIER DANNY WILLIAMS COMES TO US FOR SURGERY-NOT CANADA

Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams to travel to the United States to have an undisclosed heart operation has sparked controversy, but the head of the local health authority said it's not uncommon to send patients out of province for cardiac care. Williams travelled to the U.S. for the surgery because it wasn't being offered to him in his home province. AKA - NOT AVAILABLE IN CANADA or within their health system!!!!!!! And he is a high govt. official???????????? What does that say about Canada---not much for their so called national health system! Straight from CTV and CBC - so much for Canadian Health Care when the head of the province has to travel to the US for surgery NOT OFFERED and NOT AVAILABLE in CANADA! HA!

Canadian leader comes to US for health care? WHAT HAPPENED

to Canada as such a great representative of what the US wants for a whole nation system? Yes, I too say 'HA!' as this is one person who DOES NOT WANT OBAMACARE!

Wow!

One random example does not win a debate. HA!

YES WOW - want more? There are THOUSANDS of examples

of CANADIANS FLEEING TO THE US for health care alternatives, better medical care and less waiting. READ ABOUT IT IF YOU DARE - it's all over the web, CBC, CTV, Canadian news outlets. EVERY DAY people complain about their TWO TIERED CANADIAN coverage - the HAVES with the money and the HAVE NOTS who can't afford private insurance because THE ONLY PLAN DOES NOT HELP THEM. Learn the FACTS before posting - your ignorance is showing!

One Rush Limbaugh Toady From Key West Does Not Win An Argument

When almost 9 out of 10 Canadians are happy with their system of healthcare, I think the mental gelding who USES CAPS throughout his rants on these boards cannot possibly win an argument stressing Canadians prefer the American system of healthcare. I wonder if MR. CAPS is ready for the Insurance Company to turn down his requests for coverage as he grows older? We've got older Americans joining the Army for pre-existing conditions because their so called health provider dropped them for cancer, heart condtions, Lou Gherig's disease, etc. Health Insurers are the problem. Bring in a Public Option plan now. Over 60% of Americans are for the Public Option plan. That is a majority, yet the damn Congress keeps watering down the bill due to lobbying from the Insurance Companies.

Go to India for health care.

I hear it better quality that U.S. care. Reasonably priced, and a well kept secret of those who can travel.

India for healthcare? Do you want flies with that?

Or the trots? Ever seen how filthy and unsanitary the hospitals are there? Go ahead but remember you get what you pay for and I hope in your quest for cheap foreign healthcare you also budgeted for infections and the costs of follow up care by a US doctor to treat what those butchers failed to cure. First do no harm........?!

Written...

just like a typical, Fox News-watching, fictitious Canadian, eh?

Youre so familiar with Fox News you must be a frequent viewer

Got a crush on Glen Beck or Bill O'Reilly ? Do tell!

Canada vs. USA health care

Also, look at all the doctors leaving Canada for better pay elsewhere. They make more money and don't have to depend on the government system telling them what drugs to prescribe, what procedures will be covered and what they can and can't do for a patient. If you work for any government agency, you certainly won't make the kind of salary you can in the private sector.

You won't make that kind of salary working for the government?

Ask Jim Scholl or...

Get a clue before you post.

Get a clue before you post. You can still maintain private insurance or pay. You obviously have the health care you need. It is a joke that the richest country in the world can not provide health care for all it citizens. Obama's plan may not be perfect (the insurance lobby saw to that), but at least his goal is the right one. Your obvious hatred of Obama has gotten in the way of the basic cosideration and care for fellow citizens.

Get used to the lines

One of my employees in Georgia was in an accident with an ATV and tore up his knee. He was from Leister City UK but had not been home in over 10 years. Our small company (4 employees) had no health insurance. He was looking at over $13000 from the sports medicine clinic in Macon ,Georgia. It took 1 call home to set up the appointment, $482 for a round trip ticket and 4 days after he arrived they did the surgery. He recuperated at his mothers home for two weeks and was back at work doing his physical therpy (that they taught him) on his own. If thats the UK's worst give me some of that..

$482 roundtrip airfare to London? When? 1972?

Don't use your ancient history stories to try and prove some mute point --- it makes you look ridiculous as well as ignorant aka a Conch.

Umm...I have friends in Miami who fly back and forth to Germany

several times a year for around $400 round trip. So I'd say it's NOT ancient history....it appears to be the going rate if you're leaving from the right cities and going to the right city.

$472 to London? What - flying in the CARGO HOLD with LUGGAGE?

Or animals? Far fetched. Lying to try to prove some stupid idea. Post is pointless. Must be from a Conch.

Last I heard, Canada is

Last I heard, Canada is still a democracy. If your health care system is so repulsive, then why hasn't anyone tried to change it? I suspect that the majority are just fine with it.

Please hurry back to Canada,

Please hurry back to Canada, eh.

Spoken like a true redneck Bubba Conch/so lame and so full of BS

*yawn*

Thanks!

Everyone needs to thank "W" and the past Republican Administration for this ongoing event. By not paying for programs (drug program) and taking money for two wars off budget as supplementals, they have effectively robbed the populace of the means to take care of itself.

Health Fair

I'd like to thank AHEC and UM for these programs. I have taken part of many different types of health screenings and thier tobacco program and sincerely want to applaud thier efforts as they do want no one else will do or can do. I have seen this agency offer older adult programs and children's programs all supported by grants and contracts so they can be done at no cost or very little cost. We really need to recognize thier dedication to this community. Peter O'Carver

Thank you Peter

For recognizing that this article was about services offered free of charge to the people of the Keys. NOT something about politics, or partisanism, or anything else. The world (yes the world) have, and are experiencing economic times that most have never seen. Some people care to look past petty differences and offer that care to others.

Refering to conchs

To the comment that was refering to Conchs as being stupid. Some of us so called Conchs, watch your mouth first and foremost, secondly some of us did manage to get out and obtained a very good education.I should not even waste my time to sit here and respond to your ignorance, however I feel that if you hate us CONCHS sOOooOo much, then do us all a favor pack your bags and go back where the hell you came from!!! Or even better GO OFF YOURSELF AND JUMP OFF A BRIDGE! SOCIETY COULD USE LESS IDIOTS SUCH AS YOURSELF! That being said goes for anyone else NOT FROM KEY WEST that always has a snide remark about us that were born and raised here!

Spoken like a true backwoods hick Conch -git offa my land Yankee

You know the Civil War ended over a century ago and you idiots still think that if you weren't born here you don't belong here. I have some news for you - without the newbies and their money and the Navy you woulnd't have indoor plumbing (not popular till AFTER WWII, running water or even a decent economy. Perhaps you should think again or do you prefer sitting on your front porch with a banjo between your knees playing to the nice folk?
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