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Topless protest planned
Organizer: Women have same right as men to go shirtless

Proponents of a clothing-optional beach in Key West are challenging the city's anti-nudity law, claiming it is unconstitutional in its unequal treatment of men and women.

Tracy Leigh, president of Florida Keys Free Beaches, is organizing a Gender Equality rally for July 4, and hopes to encourage women to appear topless within the city, and thus claim the same rights as men to appear shirtless in public.

Leigh spoke at a May 16 City Commission meeting, where she asked commissioners to rewrite the city's law, which prohibits the exposure of sexual organs and exposure of the female breast "below the top of the nipple."

"Breasts are not sexual organs, which are defined as reproductive organs," Leigh said on Friday. "The city cannot ban topless sunbathing, but they'll try to turn it into a disorderly conduct charge if a police officer asks a woman to cover herself and she refuses."

Leigh cites a Florida Statute defining nudity, which does not include female breasts.

"I think the city's nudity ordinance should reflect the state's definition, and our officers should be careful in trying to arrest a woman for being topless," she said.

Key West Police Chief Donie Lee said enforcement in the city is complaint-driven, with a woman first being asked to comply with the law by putting on a shirt.

Leigh also said Monroe County State Attorney Dennis Ward told her he would not prosecute cases against topless female sunbathers.

Leigh and other local members of the National Organization for Women sent a letter, written by resident Rick Boettger, to City Attorney Shawn Smith suggesting that the city file "a preemptive or declaratory injunction against the enforcement of a law which has exposed jurisdictions across the country to lawsuits based on discrimination. That law is the selective enforcement of clothing covering breasts which selectively causes arrests of women but not men."

Smith, during the commission meeting, told the commissioners that laws similar to Key West's have been upheld in courts. He could not be reached late Friday for comment on the rally.

Leigh's Gender Equality rally is scheduled for 11 a.m. July 4. She said she envisions men and woman walking topless down the sidewalk of Duval Street.

For more information on the rally, e-mail topfreekeywest@gmail.com or phone 305-896-5920.

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Get a whole nude attitude!

It's time to turn your life skin-side out naturistspace . org

With the size, or lack thereof,

of the bathing suits women wear, there is very little difference between being clothed or nude anyways. So what is the big deal here?

Breasts Bad but Fat Beer bellied guys are good?

This is a no-brainer. If women's breasts bother you, move to Saudi Arabia. No need for your Christian Taliban mentality here.

This is too strange.

I don't feel strongly one way or the other about a clothing-optional beach. And I'm all FOR gender equality. And sure, I like to see bare breasts. But that has nothing to do with gender equality. Conflating the arguments for a nude beach and gender equality is just stupid and wrong. And it won't carry anybody's cause an inch closer to the finish line. It just makes those carrying the argument in this fashion a bunch of boobs.

nude on the street

with the possibly devastating tourist season approaching, i don't think that alienating some visitors who object to topless women in front of their families is a good idea. personally i don't object to seeing boobs, but others do. we need to do everything possible to invite visitors here, not scare them away with a nudist 4th of july. save this demonstration for a time when the tills are full, not now when we are all worried about paying the bills!

Don't miss the Bigger Picture!

I agree why mess up the 4th of July, a protest will probly go un-noticed anyhow unless you're on that part of the beach. Here's the bigger picture of why you can't have a nude beach down at the east end of Smathers. You think it will be this lovely banquet of mammary glands laid out on the beach? No! it will turn out to be a Horrible Weenie Roast! This is a clear case of bait and switch, let's not fall for it!

Did you read the article?

Your comments make me wonder if you even bothered reading the article. They are going to be doing this down Duval Street, but yeah, who ever goes down there? And it's TOPLESS, not bottomless.

It's not about the article, you're missing the point, GD.

It's about taking a piece of public beach and setting it aside for a select few. What if the Dog Walkers wern't happy with Dog Park and wanted the east end of Smathers for a Dog Beach; would you be up with that?

Fantasy Fest really scares the tourists away too, right?

This protest may actually bring people to Key West, not turn them away. Don't be a PRUDE, let's get nude!

Idiot

I guess you don't read the paper enough to know that MANY on this Island are sick of Fantasy Fest and it's decadence. What started as a fund raiser is now nothing more than a drunken week of things that people wouldn't dare do at home. So why should WE put up with this crap? The Keys are known for their acceptance. Let's have homeless nude week!!

Idiot?

Excuse me, but I think Fantasy Fest brings 10s of thousands of people to the island every year. This translates into millions of dollars spent every year during that 1 week. There's not many that oppose it, just the few like you who repeatedly complain because you have nothing better to do. We need to do everything possible to get people to spend money down here. We don't need to cater to you & your elitist attitude.

Money does not excuse

Money does not excuse everything. It is time to reevaluate Fantasy Fest. Fantasy Fest has gone from being a fun, risque event, to a freak show that harms whatever image we have left. I am in the tourist business and even though it will cost me money, I have had enough. I think if we had a referendum on this FF would be OVER.

Unfortunately money is an important issue

Have you noticed the number of businesses that are closing? Have you seen the unemployment figures & the number of foreclosures? The loss of Fantasy Fest would probably force more businesses to close, which in turn lays off more people, which means means people will lose their homes. Key West has never been a family destination. There is not much to do here for children on vacation. This is an adult destination. People come here to party on Duval. The "freak show" as you call it, is what separates us from other destinations and makes us desirable to many tourists. Who would choose Key West in October if it wasn't for Fantasy Fest? There is no way a referendum would pass. The only people who would vote against Fantasy Fest would be a few old fogeys, the rest know that they depend on Fanatsy fest for survival.

Oily Boobs

This is great way to get our minds off that big blob heading for KW.

The fourth of July is a

The fourth of July is a family holiday. Now, more tourists will have a reason to cancel. Just what we need in what will be a tough summer for our businesses. I might have been in support of a nude beach, but not anymore. I am writing by city commissioner and the mayor today.

patriotic boobs

I can't think of a better day to celebrate breasts than on our country's birthday. I've seen so many boobs in my life time..some of them even had nipples, but most are running the government.

Key West Topless

has never been a problem. We have gotten along just fine without your input, you got here in 2008 and seem to think we all need your ideas of what Key West should be like, if you don't like it just pack you boat and go back to where ever you came from....Losers

Who is

your comment directed toward? And by the way, people who hold differing opinions than yours are not losers; they just happen to be independent thinkers who employ logic, morals, and ethics.

Does this sound like the

1970's are still alive and well in Key West, or what? Go ahead girls, cheapen yourselves in the name of protest. This is an ironic and ignorant act to cry-out for equality by showing your femininity. Show some class, not your breasts.

Breasts are not sexual organs?

Breasts are not sexual organs? What planet are you from?

I applaud the topless protest!

However I think for maximum effectiveness there should be a review of said protest material ahead of time in the comfort and privacy of my home. I will surely pick the most luscious material as to leave the general public in a state of bliss and effectively eliminate any protest to the contrary. Well of course except from those who get disqualified of course, which they are certainly free to take their protest material to another city and try their luck!

Nude Beach Movement is a Joke

Any movement that has to resort to women's bare breasts to make a point is not a serious movement. This City has real issues that need to be addressed by the commission, but instead they are wasting time with these losers.

I suppose

PETA is not a serious movement either, right? Just approve the nude beach & then the protest will be unneccessary. We need more nudes, not PRUDES!

just plain interesting

If you ever go to a nude beach and get past the novelty you end up just amazed at the differences of the human body. Sure some are better built but God makes us in all sizes and colors and that makes the world interesting. Europe's beaches are all topless optional and everyone is topless and people just accept it. IT IS NO BIG DEAL.

NO Not INTERESTING!

It will not be a cool Europian topless beach! It will be a poor display of a disabled veteran sitting on his duffle bag!

No Nude Beach!

Don't get me wrong; part of a great beach day is coming across a couple of Topless Women, it's a unexpected bonus. But, if you "ok" a nude beach, one, it will ruin the nice surprise of Oh check out those topless ladies. And two, it will be more of a hidious Sausage Fest that will cause me to puck my eyes from my head and boil them in bleach to rid the image from my brain!

'Gender Equality'? If ya'

'Gender Equality'? If ya' all are so honestly upset with UNCONSTITUTIONAL conditions & unequal treatment of genders, where were ya' fighting the Hates Crime Bill? New 'special classes of people', offered more protection under the law than others is Constitutionally OK, as long as it benefits you? So much for the 'Equal Protection Clause' under the Constitution you're supposedly fighting for here, but that's OK! How will the Pro-Female, 'Gender Equality' agenda react when men start demanding they receive thing they can't because they're discriminated against because they're NOT female? Hope ya' all get big time, Nasty sunburns just like the guys!

Well then...

you'll be missing the show, sport. Of course, public support for any reason is appreciated, in spite of your missing the fact that those who protest really won't care whether you are doing so and ogling for purely self-gratificational purposes or not...

I support this!

But probably not for the reason you would hope. For I am a typical young American male. I am all for more boobs! Just remember, whatever your ethical or moral reasoning is for releasing the puppies, there will be at least a hundred pervs like me oggling your breast. Not to mention the young boys who will go to bed that night with nothing but thoughts of your boobs running through their heads. Tell me again how boobs are not sexual, I need a good laugh. Where I come from originally, they don't allow bottomless in strip clubs. However, those girls still make tons of money. I'm sure the guys are just really mesmerized by their reproductive purposes. March on ladies! I'm behind you 100% (literally)!

Just Plain Disarrayed!

Get a clue GD, you'll go to bed that night, just with the thoughts of beans & Weeniers running through your head after a day at the KW nude beach. Your just Y.D. & F. of C.

Really?

I just got called dumb by someone who doesn't know the difference between your and you're. As far as the "beans & Weeniers" (again spelling things properly when calling someone dumb is a must) comment goes, I was referring to the topless protest. You know, the thing the article is about. I thought that was quite obvious, but sometimes I forget how far I have to dumb things down for the average Citizen reader.

GD calls himself a PERV

I only called you Dumb but, I see you're both!

just gotta say

Umm- weeners- beeners whatever...but the use of "your" was correct. You're is used for "You Are" and I do not think the writer was saying "You are head"

Sorry, But "Your" (sic) Incorrect

Actually, Spanky, the "your" in question was the second use of the word in that comment, and it was incorrect. Just thought I'd point that out, since you seem to have missed it... Read it more carefully, please.

wrong

Look at the last your in the post.

Just trying to titilate.

Oh great! We were on our way to quietly passing an ordinance allowing for a clothing optional beach and now this left wing fringe of a fringe group has to flash and screw it all up. Aren't you broads due here during Biker Week? Listen, I could care less about your boobs bouncing down Duval... but for the reason I don't want nudity during Fantasy Fest is the same reason your demonstration doesn't belong there. There are children living in this town, plus those of visitors. Sure they can see it all on the internet, but those adult among us should be able to keep it all contained in their presence. Save it for the clothing optional beach, should we get one after this display.

You keep saying children

Where are all the children? Every time I go by Higgs beach, I do not see any children. Most if not all are adults.

And we are supposed to believe

that you & your children go down to Duval to do your shopping on a regular basis? I think not. Quit your complaining. If everyone is opposed to nudity, then why does Fantasy Fest fill all of the hotels up & down the Keys.

Because the world is full of

Because the world is full of freaks and perverts. Duh.

Well said Mac. I hope you

Well said Mac. I hope you write the city and tell them to prevent this. The city can legally prevent this on Duval Street. Round them up and put them in jail where the criminals can see their boobs

Muddying the Waters

There are two different issues here. It looks like the nudie beach folks are going to latch onto women's breasts to get what they want. What a line of crap! I have no problem with women going topless. I feel they are welcome to the same treatment that men enjoy. So, let them bare their breasts. BUT, to try and get a nude beach by trying to go this route is wrong.

Muddy Yes!

Go to any Clothing Optional location; as soon as you get there you wish you hadn't gone. Where's the Bleach!

How would you know, Chowder Head?

So, even though you act like you go to Nude Beaches, you don't want here?

There is already a nude

There is already a nude beach at Boca Chica. It is a dump. Why don't you and your nudie friends go clean it up?

There are a number of beach choices. No one makes you go so why

don't you chill out about it. I personally probably wouldn't go to a nude beach, but I support anyone's right to have one and to go there.

Tina, Most locals I know do

Tina, Most locals I know do not care about a nude beach, but do not want to give up anymore beach access. The city will fence this and no doubt start charging one day. Lets keep our beaches open and public to all. If the city was cool enough to just say there is a small section and it will be allowed, I would go along with it. But, of course, they will have to fence it off and control access. I do not want to go down that road with a small amount of beach available in Key West. We already gave up Fort Zach to the cruise ships, can we please keep a section for us?

Well said Tina

Well said Tina

There's a time and a place

The nude beach folks tout the revenue that it could generate and I have no problems with it. Topless women wandering around... (Okay... The fourteen year old boy that lives inside me and hasn't grown up yet doesn't have aproblem with that either.) Realistically though, nudists may represent what? 10% of the population?? The remainder doesn't want to deal with it and probably 25% will be so offended (sorry - Ya can't make people like something just because you do) that they won't vacation in Key West again. The nude beach folks will have shot themselves in the foot. Not all visitors are Fantasy Fest attendees. The economy is still weak... The oil spill is playing havoc with the tourism business and now this??

Those who are offended have some serious mental problems.

If they can't handle the human body, how can they stand being in the shower withthemselves? You people need to get comfortable with your own bodies and those of others. This anal, stove-up Christian crap makes the entire country look like a bunch of prig-asses.

Wow...you have a way with words...

and it sounds overwhelmingly boorish. When you start belching out statements of nudity and Christianity, know the facts first. Better yet, take a look at the great works of historical art that tie nudity and religion together. You should possibly consider the plain fact that not all people will agree on the subject, and that does not make those who disagree with you a "bunch of prig-asses". It does however, make you appear to be a judgmental, short-tempered fool. Instead of recommending that we need to get comfortable with the bodies of others, perhaps you should get comfortable with respecting the opinion of those who would rather not have others share their bodies with us.
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