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Thursday, September 2, 2010
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Day center details debated

The group that wants to open a daytime center for the homeless met Wednesday to discuss the project's goals and obstacles, and consider a preliminary plan of action.

Key West Mayor Craig Cates prompted the Southernmost Homeless Assistance League (SHAL) and other advocacy groups to explore the possibility of a daytime center that would provide access to case management, benefit information, community resources, showers and laundry facilities.

Officials from SHAL and other agencies emphasized Wednesday that they wanted the proposed Southernmost Resource Center to aid the homeless in getting help with mental illness, substance abuse, job training and other life skills so they ultimately could move into permanent housing.

Other stated goals include a decrease in jail recidivism, less police time spent dealing with vagrancy issues and a general drop in the number of homeless people in parks and on streets and beaches.

Cates directed the group to consider locating the center in the College Road building on Stock Island that currently houses Easter Seals. The property is near the existing Keys Overnight Temporary Shelter, which provides beds for the homeless at night, but is closed during the day.

Wendy Coles, executive director of SHAL, introduced the concept to Key West city commissioners two weeks ago and received a lukewarm reception. Commissioner Mark Rossi vehemently opposed the project and its costs, while Commissioner Billy Wardlow had received phone calls from his constituents at Key West Golf Club, who were concerned about security issues in the nearby neighborhood, Coles said.

The group on Wednesday agreed to consider alternative locations, including the former Hickory House restaurant, which is now empty and owned by Monroe County.

County Administrator Roman Gastesi said he would be open to discussions about the possibility, and reminded the group that it ultimately needs commissioners' approval, not his.

Gastesi said he supports the concept, and watched a similar program succeed when he worked on the mainland.

Rosemary Enright, head of the Monroe County Public Defender's Office, pointed out that different groups in the community will have different goals when it comes to the proposed Southernmost Resource Center.

While advocates and service agencies will want to see people get jobs, treatment and housing, some business owners just want to move the homeless population from the public streets and beaches to a less visible location on Stock Island.

Realtor Rudy Molinet reminded the group that support from the business community is vital for success.

"If you want to sell this to the community, you need to focus on what the average person wants to see, which is fewer homeless people on streets, in parks and at the beach," Molinet said, adding that homeless people regularly relieve themselves on the grounds around his downtown office.

But, he said, many of the homeless residents in his block are friendly and respectful.

The Rev. Joe McMurray of Metropolitan Community Church asked everyone on the steering committee to be mindful that "the homeless in Key West are not all one mind, one action and one personality," and asked everyone to be respectful of the population they are trying to help.

Other committee members discussed the opposition to the project that was raised at a Tuesday meeting with golf club residents, calling it the NIMBY principle, meaning "not in my backyard."

The meeting ended with a division of duties and the creation of operational committees, including one to explore funding options and one to focus on public education and outreach opportunities.

The steering committee plans to continue to meet monthly for the next six months, and then develop a long-term strategy for the project development.

mmiles@keysnews.com

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Get Real !

Does anyone actuallty think that those people are gonna hang out at a day center where they won't be allowed to drink and do drugs ? Get Real !

Bus tickets are a joke, right?

Why would anyone want a bus ticket to leave paradise? Free housing, beautiful beach side table service, catered meals at several locations and more services than you can count.. And when life gets too stressful, just get arrested for a week or so to rest and relax. You get 3 squares with free clothes and health care.

The Homeless Problem Can Be Solved...

..but the way to solve it is going to tough to sell to a lot of people. Take a look at Maslow's heirarchy of needs: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs) The answer is to make it illegal to feed the homeless (fine those who do); make the KOTS shelter very uncomfortable; and punish those who give spare change to panhandlers. NO daycare shelter. Provide any social services at the County Building in KEY LARGO!!!

All these bums...

All they want to do is steal to keep their habit of drinking cheap beer and drugs, again they contribute NOTHING to this island but trouble for all and quite frankly tourist see this and it looks like they are in charge of the city. Yes theres a difference between homeless and bums and some seem not to see the difference. Whenever bums get a chance to steal from you or tourist they will do it in a snap! they just want to keep drinking keystone beer, I agree send all these bums to Miami!

Give more and more will come.

The problem with Key West is the high cost of living, especially rents. Something not many local businesses want to compensate workers for, and if they do, the landlords charge more as the state increases it's property and other taxes. There isn't very many places a worker can go to live and rent less expensively and commute in the Keys like there is on the mainland. So any workers that are making it here are doing so working two or three jobs and are either one arrest or one missed paycheck away from being homeless themselves. The homeless have a opportunity here to get work as they can compete with the illegal alien population who live 20 in a room and getting busted occasionally. In fact the homeless with their free time are very likely the one's responsible for turning in most suspected illegal alien hideouts and workplaces. Hanging out at convenience stores and following the illegals back to their residences, it's to their advantage to do so and likely a source of beer money ;) So as long as there is a environment economically favorable to the homeless, they will come here. So how to make things better? Provide tax incentives for landlords to rent long term at reasonable rates and make it economically viable for them. Next provide temporary living assistance in a the form of a shelter/dorm/warehouse to those who are homeless and want a job to get back on their feet. As they save more they have to get their own place and forced out of the program. Businesses who ordinarily hire illegal aliens would hire these workers instead, that would take enforcement, heavy penalties on employers who hire illegals. If there is a issue with the homeless workers personality that would affect any job they could get or if they are uncooperative with the program, don't want to work, or the program is full, can't provide a local address, then yes, pack them on a bus to Miami with a city trespass warning stabled to their foreheads. EDIT: The reason why the County is so lenient towards the homeless, bums etc, especially at Higgs Beach is because this section of society makes for profitable jail filler.

Attila the Hun says:

“Every Hun has value–even if only to serve as a bad example.” But enough already!

Seriously?

A day care center, what are they 3 years old? How about a freakin' bus ticket back to where ever they came from. I am sick and tired of having the few non tourist spots in town being destroyed by these stinking bags of disease and filth. And lets not get started on the police departments weak and ineffectual action.

Day Care Center for Vagrants

I firmly believe we should not offer vagrants any benefits but do what we can to discourage them from staying in Key West. It appears that we are already spending nearly one million dollars of our scarce resources annually on KOTS, and the extra quality of life policing to address a population of 500 to 700 people based on the estimate I heard tonight. That amounts to about $2,000 per vagrant annually. Add the $310,000 that SHAL estimatesfor running a new center and we are looking at a cost of $,2,600 per vagrant. These costs do not include any of the other social services provided by various organizations throughout Monroe County. How many Key West homeowners' annual real estate tax payments will it take to cover these costs? You need to look at the numbers closely. If you all are so concerned about tourism, then the city of Key West may want to consider a different approach to policing Following are two paragraphs taken from an excellent article regarding the police and neighborhood safety: Once we begin to think of all aspects of police work as involving the application of universal rules under special procedures, we inevitably ask what constitutes an "undesirable person" and why we should "criminalize" vagrancy or drunkenness. A strong and commendable desire to see that people are treated fairly makes us worry about allowing the police to rout persons who are undesirable by some vague or parochial standard. A growing and not-so-commendable utilitarianism leads us to doubt that any behavior that does not "hurt" another person should be made illegal. And thus many of us who watch over the police are reluctant to allow them to perform, in the only way they can, a function that every neighborhood desperately wants them to perform. This wish to "decriminalize" disreputable behavior that "harms no one"- and thus remove the ultimate sanction the police can employ to maintain neighborhood order—is, we think, a mistake. Arresting a single drunk or a single vagrant who has harmed no identifiable person seems unjust, and in a sense it is. But failing to do anything about a score of drunks or a hundred vagrants may destroy an entire community. A particular rule that seems to make sense in the individual case makes no sense when it is made a universal rule and applied to all cases. It makes no sense because it fails to take into account the connection between one broken window left untended and a thousand broken windows. Of course, agencies other than the police could attend to the problems posed by drunks or the mentally ill, but in most communities especially where the "deinstitutionalization" movement has been strong—they do not. Here's the link to the full article http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/03/broken-windows/4465/...

Homeless vs. Bums

We have a few truely homeless folks here, but they are vastly outnumbered by the true outright bums.

the majority of homeless

the majority of homeless will not go to this facility. why go there when you can hang out at the beach all day? those who truly want the help will find it and get back on their feet.

Bums

Yasssir, us bums seems to be big bizness fo yall conchs. Dey any good stuff over ats da golf club. I can play me some golfs.

One-way bus tickets.

There's only one solution to the problem of bums in this town-- one-way bus tickets to Miami. Why don't these panty-waist liberals spend their time establishing a fund for just that? I'll gladly contribute and I'm sure there are plenty of business owners and residents who'll join me. Feeding and coddling them is a waste of time and money. And any place you try to establish a day care center for these bums you'll encounter the NIMBY syndrome-- with good reason. Not in my backyard, honey.

Why Miami?

That's a hop skip and a jump right back to here. send em to the capital!!
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