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NIMBY greets homeless day center
Keep transients in Key West, golf course residents say

Preliminary discussions about a homeless resource center in the vacant Easter Seals building on Stock Island have riled residents at the Key West Golf Club, many of whom are vehemently opposed to such a facility near their gated community.

Angry residents were knocking on the door of Monroe County Commissioner Kim Wigington's house this week after word of the proposed project spread. They also filled her e-mail inbox with opposition and concerns about crime, vandalism and property values.

"With this homeless shelter proposal by some softhearted, well-meaning liberal saints and activists, this is a disaster in the making of untold proportions that will forever change the image of Key West," wrote George Maffei, who states he owns an investment property at the golf club, but does not say whether he lives there. "Our beautiful island will be no more since it will look like Haiti or other third-world island if they allow these transients to feel so comfortable at the proposed shelter with free food, free sleeping quarters, etc."

The day center would provide showers, lockers, computers, benefit information and other referrals, but not sleeping quarters. The Keys Overnight Temporary Shelter (KOTS), farther down College Road, provides the homeless a free, safe place to sleep.

Maffei threatens to sell his property if the shelter comes to fruition, and warns it will bankrupt the golf club.

Wigington said she understands her constituents' concerns and also is frustrated by the proposal to move homeless residents out of Key West and onto Stock Island.

While some homeless advocates accused the golf club residents of having a NIMBY (not in my backyard) attitude toward the project, Wigington said the city is demonstrating the same by wanting to remove the homeless from its highly visible locations at Higgs Beach and Bayview Park, and "put them somewhere out in the county."

"To my knowledge, we in the county have not even been asked our opinion," Wigington said.

The facility would cost the Monroe County Sheriff's Office more money and increase traffic on Stock Island, she said.

Homeless people already converge en masse around KOTS, waiting for it to open in the evenings. The golf club homes are on the opposite side of the horseshoe-shaped College Road.

When reminded of those two facts, Wigington said the golf club residents likely opposed KOTS as well.

"But it's restricted, and once people enter for the night, they can't leave," she said. "Plus it's on the other side of the road, which I imagine makes a difference."

Homeless advocates who have proposed the facility also suggested the former Hickory House restaurant as a possible location.

"That's ridiculous," Wigington said Thursday. "The homeless would have to walk all the way down MacDonald or Maloney Avenue and they would be only 8 feet from people's bedroom windows. That's a $3.5 million boondoggle that the taxpayers are already paying for."

The county bought the Hickory House in 2006 in the vain hopes of making it a public marina, then in 2008 put it back on the market -- after property values had tanked -- where it's stayed.

Wigington said Key West should designate space for a homeless day facility within the physical confines of the island.

Project leaders on Friday said focus group meetings will be necessary.

"We certainly intend to connect with the county and we need to get some focus groups together as soon as possible to involve all the stakeholders," said Wendy Coles, executive director of the Southernmost Homeless Assistance League, which Key West Mayor Craig Cates asked to explore the possibility of a day shelter. "We do want to hear from folks and we'll set up as many meetings as are needed to make sure we understand all perspectives from the community."

mmiles@keysnews.com

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Little Hamaca Park

is actually the second sensible idea I have heard regarding this issue. The first and best being, use the apparently free flowing money to build this day care center for bums, and buy them all bus tickets back to wherever they came from. No one uses Little Hamaca Park except occasionally perverts going in there for anonymous sex. Yuck. Perhaps the bums will improve the neighborhood. Or just have sex with each other. Either way, they will be less likely to fall into the road and killed, and there is no one back there to pan handle at. Hey The gazillion tour trolley operators can add it to their route, bums natural habitat.

Citizen, if you want some REAL pictures of the situation, go out

to College Road at night and see these drunks falling over with their bicycles, into the mangroves, on the way to the homeless night facility. And then see others fall over on top of them. It's like 'night of the living dead'. These aren't just homeless - these are bums and drunks.

Forget the Golf

Forget the Golf course...what about the elementary school right across the street??? Will the people be screened? Isn't it illegal for sexual offenders to be so close to a school? And by the way-the acronym "NIMBY" is annoying. Citizen, please stop using it.

??? The Elementary School isn't across the street. It's what?

Half a mile away? And these people aren't making a trek from the college to go to the shelter. They're making the trek from the package stores on Roosevelt and on US1.

AND NIMBY is a well-known acronym. Why not use it?

has anyone thought this through?...

The homeless need to be evaluated to see what their mentality is. I notice some are schizophrenic, & have other mental problems, & they are non-employable, but need to stay in a state mental institution and take their meds. Yeah, you have sex offenders which include pedophiles. some have a problem with an authorative figure (boss, supervisor, manager). I remember back in 1985 there weren't as many homeless like there is today. We have more homeless that come down from the northren states when it starts to get cold & make their home here on the beaches and parks, to them it is; no worries, no bother- just panhandle and drink, solicite and loiter, ahhhhh paradise. Just think... buying a oneway ticket for the homeless is a waste of time, they will be back in 3 or 4 days and then we're back where we started with the bellyachin' & b****en again.., boy, it is a vicious cycle. The idea is going in the right direction, but not the solution..., we all need to get together and kick around ideas (Key West Locals who live here year round, Monroe County Commissioner, City Mayor & the Homeless Advocates).

Good Point

But you left out the homeless Veterans suffering from PTSD or came back and couldn't find a job and are suffering from depression. Sadly I don't see much mention of them. Even though they're the biggest increase in the homeless population recently.

This is a joke !

The only way most of the homeless bums are gonna stay at that ficility in the day time is if they're allowed to drink and use drugs there . Otherwise , they're gonna be back on the streets doing their thing and the ficility will remain empty during the day . This is a total waste of tax payer money . Also , like I said before , Most of these people keep getting arrested regularly for the same public order crimes . It's time to put the 3 strikes and you're outta town law into effect !

It's a tough decision...but we have to make it.....

Unfortunately, the last time that our economy was in this bad a shape....was the great depression. Something that many, including myself didn't know...is that during the depression, double-digit unemployment, (15%-20% in fact), lasted for 10 long years. In fact, the only thing that brought us out of it...was Pearl Harbor....and a World War. This one isn't going away soon either. That being said....we can't become an "oasis" for homeless people, many of whom want nothing to do with any kind of work, have mental or chemical dependency issues, or might be criminals. True..there are some who are actually down on their luck. They aren't the majority however. It's admirable to want to help them all. I've tried myself, with pretty good results at times, but the majority of these people.....have no interest in bettering themselves...or work. They need to go. Now better than later. The "bus ticket somewhere else" policy....seems our only answer again for the forseeable future. Otherwise.....being the "only frost free city" in the United States....is really going to hurt us any way that you look at it. They need to live somewhere else. One last thing. I live at the Golf Club. Many of us are not "affluent". We're middle class Americans who have families. Before you cast dispersions on anyone....perhaps walk up to some of these homeless people....and try to talk with them. It may open your eyes. Most of them hate you.

Do what other cities have done sucessfully

Do what other cities have done sucessfully to rid their streets and neighborhoods of the real problem which is panhandling bums. St. Petersburg, FL recently enacted an ordinance that basically outlaws solicitation (panhandling) on public right of ways within the city limits of St. Petersburg. The ordiance had to be worded in a way that basically bans any type of roadway, median or side of the road solicitation for money. Unfortunately that included the people selling newspapers and also anyon that does fundraising in the streets. The St. Petersburg Times threatened to sue but later backed off when they lost their appeal of the ordinance. Now residents and visitors do not have to worry about being stopped at an intersection and a bum coming up to their vehicle begging for money. Key West needs to stop making our Island inviting for the bums. Ban the panhandling totally in the city of Key West and maybe even the county itself and see how long it would take to see less homeless on our streets. The ones that do remain can avail themselves to the available services if they chose to follow the rules. We should not be building housing or shelters for the homeless and the taxpayer footing the bill for any organizations plans to build housing for the homeless when we have many residents who need affordable housing.

Municipal Obligations

After what happened on the mainland, the city does have an obligation regarding the homeless. A court decision ruled that Ft Lauderdale/Broward County must provide a shelter as an alternative to running them out of town. This applies statewide. That's why the facility on Stock Island is present. Moreover, with the hard times hitting so many folks across the nation, and with winter coming, we need to have something ready because there will soon be many more homeless among us.

Say What?

If Maffei sells his property(s) how will that bankrupt the golf course? That property will still be there only with new owners. Sounds like a demigod statement to me. Key West and Stock Island are already ruined, so more bums (homeless by choice) will not impact a thing.

So when Kim Wigington commemorates the new Homeless Hotel

Is she also going to rename College Road to The Bowling Alley Ave. or Skid Row road?

oh yes and more

So the Early Steps that currently uses the building to help children, where are they going. Thats great Bumms replace facilities that help children. Great idea idiots

Are You Stupid or just plain dumb

The city leaders here are a joke. What a great idea. Lets encourage this idea. Give the homeless a place to go. Provide food for them at the catholic charities. Put clothes on their backs, oh and nice ones if they have a prospect job interview. Oh and yes wait, how many indigenous clinics are they in key west. Let us all promote this idea. Come on. I know, maybe the city and county officials should examine this a little closer. How many are sex offenders, lets place the building on the same street as Gerald Adams. Great idea. Arresting them when the few are drunk and disorderly great, now WE are paying for that as well. How about what key west used to do. Give them all a bus ticket to miami. If they want to come back. They will walk. Wow, remember the movie field of dreams, "If you buid it, they will come". How many have a mental illness that needs to be treated. Hmmmmmm. Ok so we build the day center. Before they can use it, they should be checked out. If the case needs, send them to a state hospital, dont turn them loose in the city. Let them get rehabilated and be an answer not the problem.

Everyone needs to run these Bums outa town!

We’re going to have to shelf this “One Human Family” mentality ( it really only applies to our gay community anyhow) and be very “anti-vagrant” or “bum unfriendly”. Don’t be an enabler to these panhandlers; don’t give them spare change, a smoke, even the time of day!

All one human family huh? A

All one human family huh? A bunch of part time residents in a gated community do not want homeless people on the streets leading to their gated community. What a joke. Wigington looks as stupid as the rest for not calling them out on this.

Typical liberal headline

Nice "NIMBY" slam by the Citizen. I wonder what the headline would be if the shelter was going up next to the Citizen's office or next to the home of the reporter who wrote the story.

Homeless Day Care

Let's use some of the extra land around Little Hamaca Park, build some sheltered tables similar too Higg's. and let themstay back there during the day, it's no longer a viable park for most of us anyway. Put's the close to Salvation Army for lunch, and St. Marys for supper

I hope if nothing else this

I hope if nothing else this comes to fruition so Maffei does indeed sell his property and leaves the Keys for good. We don't need his type of poison polluting the county.

The homeless shelter

O.K., I understand that these more affluent people do not want the underprivileged in their community. So, exactly where would you suggest that they go? They have to go SOMEWHERE; they are human beings, after all, or have you forgotten that? If you are going to be opposed to something so vehemently, that I suggest you offer up a better solution instead of just whining about it. Afraid that "your property values are going to go down"? Really??? I don't think property values anywhere in the Keys are going to drop drastically any time soon, at least, not any moreso than anywhere else in the country. I am so tired of people who happen to be a little more affluent than others thinking that they are BETTER than everyone else.

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Go take a look at all the bums/drunks hanging outside supermarkets beggin for money outside so they can go in and buy beer or asking you to purchase your groceries with their EBT card so you can give them the cash, again so they can keep their drinking habit. Stealing anything they can from anybody *specially tourists* the moment they blink, their cameras are gone, again we are talking about bums/drunks, we have homeless that are good people and they dont hang out in parks or their breakfast of champions consists on keystone ice beer, we are not talking about them, *very few of them* Go to Miami to see how the Miami mafia handles bums/drunks hanging around south beach or better yet Coral Gables.

I agree

I agree with your comments however, the bigger problem here is that the city is so willingly pushing out the early steps program. If you know what this program is I imagine you would agree, this location is not up to par. Do you know or have you heard, back in the late 60's and early 70's, the city used to give them a 1 way ticket on a bus outa here. Do I agree with that, well thats a matter of personal opinion. I would like to drive through town and not see 6 homeless people within the same block. And home prices or shall we say values going down. I went to the meetings at the golf course. Both of them. Home Values were not a topic however, what was a topic was the security breaches that happen quite frequently with the homeless climbing over the fences along the golf course. Now will home values go down, no. Well no more than brother Obama has helped them go down.

What does "brother Obama"

What does "brother Obama" have to do with this article? You think Obama made home prices go down? You are another fine example of what comes out of America's education system.

Homelessness first became a problem in modern america...

...during the reign of Grandpa Reagan. It got much worse under Daddy Bush 1 and went through the ceiling when the idiot son Bush got selected. Times are usually very bad for the poor during Republican periods. That's because republicans love to let companies fire people in massive numbers to keep the investor's shares up.

Brother Obama

You are absolutely right. Obama has nothing to do with the the housing prices or the homeless situation. In fact, he doesn't have anything to do with just about anything at all

Key West Golf Club condos.

Cracker boxes...try to put a queen size bed in the upstairs bedroom...forget a dresser. your property value dropped the day you bought your unit.

They're certainly not luxurious as these residents would like

you to think. They were way over-priced and some of the cheapest-selling properties here now...either from foreclosures or sellers who fancied themselves to be some sort of real estate moguls in the making.

Most of the people at the Golf Club would kill to get rid of their white-elephant properties since most are upside down on their mortgages. And then there are the rules! Ugh.

There is a 2 bedroom

There is a 2 bedroom available right now at an approved short sale price of 200k. Let the guy in the article sell and move on. It would be his loss!

Are you for real?

"I don't think property values anywhere in the Keys are going to drop drastically any time soon". Do you even own property here (or in Ohio)? I just got my new proposed tax bill and my property has drastically fallen again. I am sick of being responsible just to bail everyone out of foreclosures, etc. When does anyone take responsibility for their own failures? I am all for helping someone get their feet on the ground but first they have to get off their a$$.

The city commission must act.

It's not only golf course residents opposed to this "welcome center" for bums. All the citizens of Key West-- save for the panty-waist liberals with too much time on their hands-- are fed up with our streets filled with drunks and bums. There are vagrancy laws which can legally be enforced. It's time for the city commission to stop fooling around with these do-gooder groups and look out for the city's image. Call for the KWPD to ENFORCE VAGRANCY LAWS. Email your commissioner and demand it.

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