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Wednesday, September 8, 2010
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City vets new noise rule

The Key West City Commission is asking its street musicians to turn down the volume.

The commission on Tuesday night gave tentative approval to new regulation that would limit how loud musicians can perform on the streets of Key West. The commission has to hold another public hearing and give the rule a second reading to make it binding.

The ordinance states that a "complaint of disturbing noise may be made at any distance from a commercial or residential property when the location of the sound source is in the public right of way."

It also says officers may issue a citation if "the complainant suffers disturbing noise within the boundaries of his or her property. The investigating officer may issue a warning if in his or her judgment a warning is sufficient to cease the violation."

Violators may only get one warning during any 12-month period.

The ordinance was proposed by Commissioner Jimmy Weekley, whose district includes Duval Street. Weekley has concerns about street performers playing music on plastic buckets, people singing too loud and musicians playing electric pianos too loud, he said.

The commission voted 5-2 in favor of the ordinance, with Mayor Craig Cates and Commissioner Teri Johnston dissenting. Johnston questioned the definition of "disturbing noise." She also asked what will be the maximum allowed noise under the ordinance, are investigations complaint-driven and how much latitude the investigating officer would have in determining if the noise was disturbing.

Attorney Shawn Smith described disturbing noise as "raucous" and "jarring" that would "disrupt peaceful enjoyment of a business or residence" and told Johnston it was complaint-driven.

"It is very discretionary and can be discriminatory," Johnston said.

This is the second time in recent months that the city has tried to hit street performers with more strict rules. The commission gave a first reading on an ordinance in July that would change the city's governance of street performers, artists, vendors and palm weavers who make their living on the street. The new ordinance would increase licensing fees, institute an insurance requirement, require more space between performers and limit the size and location of their display.

The commission gave a first reading on the ordinance, but has twice postponed giving a second reading on the rules as the commission wanted more information from the performers and city staff crafting the rules.

The commission is scheduled to give a second reading on the ordinance at its Sept. 21 meeting.

Special taxing district

The commission also set up a board to dole out property tax money collected in the Key West Bight. The money will be used in the "Caroline Street Corridor" for such improvements as sidewalk repair, landscaping and lighting.

The nearly $400,000 in property tax money will stay in the greater Caroline Street area for the improvements. Such special taxing districts are usually set up for run-down areas or areas in need of repair and maintenance.

Commissioner Barry Gibson pointed out that Key West Bight and Caroline Street area is one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the city and other areas of the city could use a special taxing district. Taxing money from other areas of town goes right into the general fund.

The district will be in place for the next 30 years unless the City Commission chooses to do away with it before then.

tohara@keysnews.com

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Intentions, Repression and Greed

I think Commissioner Johnston hits the nail on the head by questioning the definition of "disturbing noise." You may not enjoy the sounds some of these musicians make, but it’s nothing compared to the outrageous aural attacks from motorcycles and people who blast those air horns just to watch people jump. Where’s Jimmy Weekley’s outrage over these heart-attack wrenching blasts of sound? In fact, where are the police? Aren’t there city ordinances regarding how loudly a vehicle can spew on our public streets? Oh, I forgot…they’re too busy going after those horrible two and three wheeled bicyclists who cause SO much havoc. But maybe the real question should be: What is Jimmy Weekley’s real agenda? If it’s quality of life, go for the biggest insulters with the least regard for their fellow citizens, not some hard working musicians trying to make a buck.

You have to look at the RESULTS of these issues. The bicyclists

have harmed others and caused great financial and physical damage with their refusal to abide by the laws. When they cause innocent people financial damage of hundreds of thousands of dollars because of their own arrogance, they SHOULD be held responsible by the KWPD. The 'train horns' on the Bubba-firefighers' trucks have harmed innocent people when they frighten them, and have damaged hearing. And the people who are not employed, who try to use our streets for their own personal stages without regard to their neighbors are very much at fault as well. Motorcycles make our quiet neighborhoods a nightmare.

What's missing in all of these scenarios? RESPECT. None of the offenders RESPECT those around them. The bikers don't respect our town or they'd not deliberately break the laws, all because they seem to have a really pathetic physical shortcoming that they're trying to make up for. The bicyclists don't respect others or they'd simply abide by the same laws that all citizens abide by. The street musicians do not respect the neighborhood or they'd not assault those who live there with their noise levels. And clearly the firefighter-Bubbas with the train horns have no respect for ANYONE.

For you to make this about greed is rather childish. It's about RESPECT and not a single one of these offenders have respect for others.

8 years on Eaton...

...insane noise level. Moved up the Keys, now I can sleep soundly anytime of the day or night, with only the birds chirping. Dam birds.

Be quiet.

Be quiet.

Too subjective

to be fair, but I have to say the guys bashing empty plastic 5 gallon buckets are really, really obnoxiously loud, and they go on and on forever. The Motorcycles come for 10 days once or twice a year, and they SPEND money, they do not sit around begging. Why are they always dragged into any convo about noise? I suspect the same people who hate bikes, also hate Fantasy Fest, Pridefest, Parrotheads and pirates. Geez, maybe that retirement home on the mainland is calling.

Oddly enough, I hate the motorcycles because they come into

our neighborhoods. They have no respect for the PEOPLE of our island, for our HOMES or for our neighborhoods. I don't hate Fantasy Fest because it doesn't invade our neighborhoods. Parrotheads? They're so cheap they're in the hotels and not in our neighborhoods, and the pirates and Pridefest are in very small areas. They bikers are everywhere, making us all crazy with their noise, their tin-ny radios and their tacky, low-class shirts. No, Bubba...we don't want to move to the mainland. We just would like our visitors to respect the place they're visiting.

CITY Noise

How about the noise of those annoying scooters you can hear coming from 10 blocks down the road. Who is going to carry the decibel meter to determine how loud the noise actually is? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder AND listener. What some people find annoying, others find enjoyable, who is one to judge?

owwwwww.

be quiet, your killing my brain.

I remember when this was done in the nineties...

And officers were given DB meters, ostensibly to patrol the streets going after noise complaints. I remember the woderful look on one officer's face when he discovered something wonderous about 'noise'... that the ambient noise of traffic, and rustling of leaves, and passing jets, and oh yeah, the motorcycles and mopeds --all this 'raucus' business as usual 'noise', made it impossible to get a reading on musicians no more than ten feet away. When will they ever learn? In Key West, they can't learn because they can't remember anything that happened more than a few days ago.

Why doesn't the city enforce the law against straight pipes on

these awful motorcycles? These things rattle the windows in my house! And these 'visitors' have very little respect for our town and our laws. Why are they not ticketed? This town has a huge budgetary shortfall, yet the KWPD doesn't ticket those that KNOW they're breaking the law and do so with great arrogance.

Oh, and while I'm at it, the owner of the house on our block who rents it illegally as a transient rental, rented to bikers a few years ago. So now we have illegal transient rental AND bikers and their noise. The first thing is they were in residential parking spots so we took pictures. We called the KWPD. Nothing happened. I took pictures the next morning and the bikes were all still in the residential parking spots, in the exact same location. They'd never moved. I phoned the KWPD and was told that the bikes weren't there when the officer arrived! LIARS! First, if an officer arrived, we never saw it. And of course, I had time-stamped photographic evidence. How many other things does the KWPD lie about?

If you know the transient

If you know the transient rental is illegal, call code enforcement. They will come out and meet with you and resolve this. I know from experience. They go after the tax money they are owed and are happy to help.

Research

may yield even more information to use against the property owner who is renting his property illegally. Check out his property on the property appraiser's website at www.mcpafl.org and you may find that the owner is claiming a homestead exemption on a property that he does not occupy. Is there more than one family living in a single family home? I have found Code Enforcement to be very responsive to issues that I have brought to them.

The county people said they have to PROVE there are renters in

there. That means they have to resort to subterfuge. What about a property owner who leaves the property vacant, unless they are doing illegal work on the property without propere permits? The Appraiser still can't do anything. The laws need to have TEETH in them.

Yeah I get that

the property appraiser has nothing to do with regulating building permits. But they do have a wealth of information that can often be used to get some cooperation. Last year our neighborhood had a group of teenage boys creating an automotive dump in the water beside the road. No one from any official position was able or willing to stop it. But after looking at the property records, I was able to find an address for the landlady and also discovered that there was an illegal fence and an illegal addition on the offending property. After writing to the landlady and suggesting that Code Enforcement might be looking into these issues unless she made sure that her tenants were good neighbors, dumping activity stopped and the boys are careful to keep the area clean now. This desirable outcome was achieved by the use of free information gleaned from the property appraiser's website .

Ed, what color is the sky in your world?

It's not that easy. You can call them, but they have to entrap the dirtbags. Code Enforcement has to pretend to be a renter, get a contract, sign it, then they can do something about it. These filthy dirtbag illegal transient rental owners KNEW when they bought their property that it was illegal. They do it anyway. Some have files 4" thick with the city, yet they keep on doing it. The fines are big but not big enough. They make enough in one week to pay the fine. If the fines were through the roof, then maybe it could be curtailed. They're filthy, greedy pigs who have no respect for a neighborhood.

AND try to get Code Enforcement out here on the weekends! Try to get someone in our over-paid city employee pool to show up on a Saturday night on an 'event' weekend. Nope...doesn't happen. The cops don't show. Code enforcement doesn't show. It's really disgusting. You can call, leave messages, and they'll call on TUESDAY when the dirtbag bikers and illegal transient renters have long-gone. Our residential parking is taken. Our tax dollars are squandered on useless employees. These filthy illegal transient rental owners don't pay taxes - and many are also claiming a homestead exemption on their rental properties!!!! I'm telling you, these people are the bane of our existence here.

Code enforcement-- a joke.

They're too busy collecting their payoffs from the T-shirt shops on Duval. Then they have to go buy their lottery tickets.

The head of Code Enforcement is diligent and tries really hard

to do the right thing. It's the Bubba-crooks who work for him that are the problem. I know one in particular was a fired double-dipping cop. Why does the city keep hiring the crooks they fire?

I have had good experience

I have had good experience with them. What can I say... Maybe I was lucky, but the idiot renting illegally next to me was fined and sued for back taxes. He finally sold the house and now nice people live there full time. Fight for your rights!

CAR NOISE!!!

The real problem is the jerks that drive around in cars making the pavement shake from the bass on their stereos that are cranked up to a level that causes headaches. Supposedly there is a city ordinance against this, but it has never been enforced. These drivers seem to have the attitude that mine is bigger than yours. Of course, the opposite it most usually the case.

There Goes Our City "Attorney" Again

'Attorney Shawn Smith described disturbing noise as "raucous" and "jarring" that would "disrupt peaceful enjoyment of a business or residence" and (is) complaint-driven.' Well, Shawn has never been known for being precise about anything. Now he give us new scientific measurements - "raucous" and "jarring". I wonder if Shawny Boy could demonstrate some examples of this kind of noise for us? Most likely not, but here's an easy way to do it: simply record the "raucous" and "jarring" noise coming out of Rossi's noise labs on Duval Street ... talk about irritate people! How do we complain about that?

Another Law That Will Not Be Enforced...

Why would you put yet another law on the books that will not be enforced? You don't enforce the current noise laws that prohibit thugs from driving up & down Duval St with their obnoxious bass systems booming so loud that they make everything around them vibrate. So, now you want to control musicians? What's next...dress codes for the entertainers?

Control the REAL noise.

The noise created by a bum pounding on plastic tubs pales by comparison to the thunderous, car alarm-shattering noise of a Harley with straight pipes. Yet we invite thousands of them, year after year, onto the streets of our small island. They are allowed to rev their engines up and down Duval and adjacent streets with complete impunity. Not to mention, they sit in Duval Street bars and drink all day, then jump on their bikes to drive impaired. All this in the name of "charity." Forget the street performers-- tell the Rotary Club we're tired of the Poker Run and all its noise.

and add obnoxious scooters

Any scooter with a faulty muffler should be banned from operation from the streets. You can hear them early in the morning waking everyone up whose windows are open all over the whole island
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