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Friday, June 22, 2012
Many support lower speed

As of Tuesday night the speed limit for almost all streets in Key West was reduced to 20 mph, and officials want the state of Florida and Monroe County to consider lowering speed limits on roads they oversee in the city, as well.

"Until this ordinance was passed, the citywide speed limit was 30 mph unless marked," said city spokeswoman Alyson Crean. "The ne...

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Interesting how DeSantis,

Interesting how DeSantis, who supports everything cruise ship and Ed Swift, uses a headline how " many support this" when not a single comment below is in support. This was shoved through by Jimmy "whatever Swift says" Weekly to be sure that when Swift 's franchise agreements come up in a few years, we can not make the argument that his vehicles slow traffic. People of Key West are fools if you can not see the plan behind this. It has nothing to do with safety, or bikes, or anything else. It is to assure that no one can claim swifts vehicles slow our traffic too much since now everyone will be forced to go 20 mph anyway!

What a waste of time if the

What a waste of time if the cops do not enforce the speed limit we already have? How about a few non use of directional violations, or rolling stop through stop signs? All of these the cops violate themselves. So really why waste time and money reducing a speed limit that like most traffic laws wont even be enforced, especially if it is hot or raining.

they just want to lower the

they just want to lower the speeds to justify those new obnoxious duck tours along with the already traffic clogging trolleys and trains. then they can say these tours aren't the nuisance we all are sick of.

Who pushed for this stupid idea?

First, this better be only residential streets or there is going to be hell to pay in court and at the ballot box. Secondly, few people can drive 25 anyway on residential streets because they have parking on both sides and there is so little room everytime there is traffic a vehicle has to slow to a crawl. Then even on main streets we have scooters, trams, trolleys, electric cars and just general morons who can't drive the speed limit or anywhere near it. Now we will have even more idiots driving 20 on major roads because of this stupid ordinance. Who exacty pushed for this? Must be that nutcase city planner who likes to throw rocks at cars going too fast.

I call B.S.

Lowering the speed limit to 20 mph on all KW back roads - fine. The roads are tight anyways and 30 mph just felt too fast. But lowering the speed limit on roads like Flagler and N and S Roosevelt? What retards want that? That makes no sense whatsoever. Let me guess - bicyclists want it. Well, how about this? KWPD needs to crack down on these rogue bicyclists. You can't go anywhere without seeing a bicyclist run a light, stop sign, go the wrong way, etc. KWPD start writing tickets! Leave the rest of us alone who drive 30 mph on the 4 lane roads in order to support our living.

And then, there they are as well, talking on their cell phones

and texting. Yesterday I saw a pack of guys (maybe 19 - 20?) on bikes, on the sidewalks and also riding straight across Simonton, blocking all traffic in both ways. They were terrorizing pedestrians and automobiles. What is wrong with those people????

I agree - KWPD needs to start writing tickets.

Bicycle

You should ride a bicycle. I bet your waistline and clogged arteries would thank you. What's your hurry? Need to get home to fry up a cube steak and watch some reality tv?

From what I see, most bike riders do so because they've lost

their drivers licenses to DUI / DWI. Oh, and then there are the bicyclists passed out in the ditch as well.

and like cruz said... you

and like cruz said... you should stop running red lights and stop signs along with going the wrong way down one- way streets.

Red Lights & Stop Signs

I've run neither. One way streets. I only travel one way.

typical

Instead of actually doing their job and regulating the constantly increasing numbers of trams, trolleys, ducks, conch trains, pedicabs, and scofflaw bicyclists, the City Commission instead decides to slow all traffic to a crawl. Hopefully FDOT laughs in their face when they try to get the limits lowered to 20 on North/South Roosevelt. I think four lane portion of Flagler is still 30 mph - didn't the ordinance mention two-lane streets? Also there is a 30 mph speed limit sign on Palm Ave coming away from North Roosevelt, I wonder if the city will be taking that down soon? Palm Ave is not a residential street in any sense, not until it reaches White and turns into Eaton does it become residential.

City of KW

Where is the traffic speed study required by State Statute prior to reducing the speed limit to 20 MPH. The City has Zero authority to change the speed limit in non-residential areas. These are set by the state. Incompetent legal advice if I have ever seen it. But Bubba does what they want, don't they?

Florida Statute Says Differently

RE: MUNICIPALITIES--TRAFFIC CONTROL--reduction of speed limit in commercial area. s. 316.189(1), Fla. Stat. Dear Mr. Harris: On behalf of the Town of Lake Placid, you ask substantially the following question: Does a municipality have the authority to lower the speed limit in a commercial zone to 20 miles per hour? In sum: While section 316.189(1), Florida Statutes, authorizes a municipality to lower the speed limit on local streets in a residential area to 20 miles per hour when conditions warrant, the statute does not grant the same discretion to reduce the speed limit in non-residential areas. The Florida Uniform Traffic Control Law, Chapter 316, Florida Statutes, was enacted "to make uniform traffic laws to apply throughout the state and its several counties and uniform traffic ordinances to apply in all municipalities."[1] While a municipality may control certain traffic movement or parking in its jurisdiction, section 316.002, Florida Statutes, makes it clear that any such authority is "supplemental to the other laws or ordinances of this chapter and not in conflict therewith." This section goes on to state that it is unlawful for any local authority, which includes municipalities, to pass or to attempt to enforce any ordinance in conflict with the provisions of Chapter 316.[2] Section 316.189(1), Florida Statutes, provides: "The maximum speed within any municipality is 30 miles per hour. With respect to residence districts, a municipality may set a maximum speed limit of 20 or 25 miles per hour on local streets and highways after an investigation determines that such a limit is reasonable. It shall not be necessary to conduct a separate investigation for each residence district. A municipality may set speed zones altering the speed limit, both as to maximum, not to exceed 60 miles per hour, and minimum, after investigation determines such a change is reasonable and in conformity to criteria promulgated by the Department of Transportation, except that no changes shall be made on state highways or connecting links or extensions thereof, which shall be changed only by the Department of Transportation."[3] (e.s.) In Attorney General Opinion 92-94, this office was asked whether a municipality could establish a speed limit lower than 25 miles per hour on local streets and highways in light of the provisions of section 316.189(1), Florida Statutes (1991). At that time, the statute provided that the maximum speed within any municipality was 30 miles per hour; however, with respect to residence districts, a municipality could set a maximum speed limit of 25 miles per hour on local streets and highways after an investigation determined that such a limit was reasonable. After reviewing the legislative history of the statute, this office concluded that section 316.189(1), Florida Statutes, did not authorize a municipality to establish a speed limit lower than 25 miles per hour on local streets and highways. In 1996, the Legislature amended section 316.189(1), Florida Statutes, to permit a lower maximum speed of 20 miles per hour.[4] As amended, the statute now allows a county or municipality to set a lower maximum speed of either 20 or 25 miles per hour on local streets in a residential area if an investigation determines that such a limit is reasonable. Thus, while section 316.189(1), Florida Statutes, permits a municipality to lower the speed limit to 20 or 25 miles per hour, it limits the exercise of such discretion to local streets in residential areas.[5] Where the Legislature has prescribed the manner in which a thing should be done, that is, in effect, a prohibition against its being done in any other way.[6] Accordingly, I am of the opinion that while section 316.189(1), Florida Statutes, authorizes a municipality to lower the speed limit on local streets in a residential area to 20 miles per hour when conditions warrant, the statute does not grant the same discretion to reduce the speed limit in nonresidential areas. Sincerely, Robert A. Butterworth Attorney General

many do not

while many do support lowering the speed limit...many do not. 25 is reasonable and flagler and north and south roosevelt should remain as they were 30-35MPH . Of course only an idiot would not adjust their speed when the situation warrants

Great

Now we will all be driving like a conch train.....getting nowhere slower

really!?

this is just stupid...20mph is too slow. what is the purpose and what studies were done to determine this change was needed? In every other city, 25 is the residential speed limit, any other speeds are posted. 20mph is ridiculous, i'm sure the speeding KWPD would agree.

speed

Many speed enforcement tickets are cited as "violating the traffic control device" - the speed limit sign itself. One reason for this are the very high fine amounts (some as much as a car payment) on actual speed citations. Another MAJOR factor in speed enforcement is the availability to officers of speed measuring devices. We, as the public, cannot change the fine amounts; however, maybe we can push for the acquisition of more speed measuring devices for the officers.

Does anyone know if

the speed limit on Flagler Avenue was reduced to 20 mph or did it also remain unchanged since it's a major thoroughfare in Key West. I've heard conflicting stories on this so far.

Street Signs

How about checking the speed limit traffic signs along Flagler... Regardless, a 20 MPH limit on most residential streets is ridiculous...
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