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Friday, July 20, 2012
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County rejects raises
Firefighters union mulls new contract

After more than a year of back and forth negotiations, Monroe County commissioners on Wednesday night rejected a proposed contract that would have given county firefighters raises.

Commissioners cited the need for equity among all county employees, given current economic woes.

"Other county employees are not getting any raises, and that's a big part of this," Monroe County Fire Rescue Chief Jim Callahan said Thursday.

Raises are at the center of the contract dispute between Monroe County and its firefighters, and both sides are apparently refusing to budge.

After dozens of meetings in the past year, negotiations stalled and were declared at an impasse. Both sides pleaded their case to a special magistrate assigned by the Florida Public Employees Relations Commission. The magistrate hammered out a proposed three-year contract calling for step increases only -- no cost of living adjustment -- in years two and three, according to Assistant County Attorney Cynthia Hall, a negotiator for the county.

Union attorney Mark Floyd did not return a Citizen phone call Thursday.

Now that county commissioners have shot down the raises, the International Association of Firefighters 3909 union can either ratify the contract without the raises or reject it. The latter would require an immediate return to negotiations, Hall said.

There are 265 clauses on which the county and the union agreed, Hall said. For example, the county agreed to broaden how educational money is spent within the fire department, Hall said.

Annual salaries without benefits or overtime for firefighter/EMTs are $35,445 for starters, $42,678 at mid-level, $53,452 for 11 or more years of service, between $39,484 and $59,543 for lieutenants and between $55,990 and $84,317 for battalion chiefs.

Seventy percent of county firefighters don't live in Monroe County, Hall told commissioners.

"I think the message was abundantly clear that the county has a desire to treat all county employees equally and fairly while taking into consideration the tough economic times we are still in," Hall said. "I hope that's a point of view the union also considers."

Callahan said he wants the best for his firefighters.

"I'd like for them to have a long-range contract for stability, but I don't know what the solution is in this economic climate," Callahan said. "I want the best for them, naturally, but I have to look at the reality of the issue."

Commissioner Kim Wigington said the county supports its firefighters, but the issue is one of fairness and pay equity among all employees.

"They were asking for raises that other employees are not privileged to have," Wigington said. "I don't think it was equitable. It was disproportionate."

alinhardt@keysnews.com

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I heard instead of raises they all got a free I-Pad

I heard instead of raises they all got a free I-Pad!

Can't cut it!

These comments sound like a recruit, that washed out of the academy. You whinners could not cut it in the police force or fire service. Read the studies about risky jobs. Sure we know what we signed up for, the pay and benefits are pretty generous, but so are the dangers that go along with it.

furthermore mr "horseman",

furthermore mr "horseman", or maybe more appropriate... jacka$$, you should be grateful to have a job, especially in this economy. a little more gratitude and a whole lot less whining would do you some good. you are easily replaceable by folks who would do the job for far less and have a much better attitude about it and do just as good a job if not better. as many other floridians, i wish our governor would pass some of the same laws governor walker did in wisconsin. it's insane when employees are dictating to their employers (the taxpayers) what they get paid and that's what your unions have been doing for far too long. seems all across the country that is no longer going to be the standard... thank god.

hey there mr. "horseman"...

hey there mr. "horseman"... you sound just like one of those whiney, entitement minded cops or firefighters rather than one of us that did it out of a sense of honor and duty. i made the cut so i'll be happy say to you that with along with fairly generous salaries for public employees along with the medical, dental, and retirements benefits after just a few years on the job, you guys are grossly overcompensated. learn to live within your means and stop the guilt trip on the taxpayers already, nobody's buying it any longer!

Hmmph. I don't think any of us would want those jobs.

Honest, hard-working people prefer to work with other honest, hardworking people. We'd never want to work for the government. Here, they're all Cuzzies and Bubbas and we know what THAT means.

entitled firemen

Kudos for the Commissioners. Since 9-11, firefighters across America have developed an attitude from Hell, especially about financial entitlement. Perhaps they should look inward, remembering when and why they chose that profession. Was it really about money?

I have to agree with you. Cops are the same.

THEY chose their profession. They knew what it paid. They knew the risks. Yet they are the first to try to use guilt and pressure to get raises when the economy has tanked and there is no money anywhere.

Right after 911, it was the worst! I know of a guy who booked an extensive vacation in Key West. He prepaid many days of diving, and fishing and other activities. He knew the cancellation policies. Boats were waiting for him, and they'd turned away other customers. He was a no-show. I called the hotel where he was staying and he indeed was there. A month later, he phoned when he saw the charge on his credit card (which included his signature by the way.) That's when he said "But, but, but I'm a firefighter! You can't do that." I told him that we certainly could. Then he said "I couldn't come to Key West because of an emergency related to 911." (He was from Chicago, by the way.) I then told him "The hotel says you were there." Caught in his lie, he first admitted he was hungover, then he became furious and told me that I had no respect for first responders. I told him that I have no respect for liars.

I know that's lengthy but it clearly illustrates the entitlement attitude of these people. I know we all appreciate having them around, but the fact is, it's a job THEY wanted and THEY signed up for.

How about how they bullied

How about how they bullied us at every intersection for donations, every day after 9/11. If you didn't give every time you went by they commented on your lack of care and patriotism. I am sure a lot of that money never made it to NYC too.

I doubt ANY of it made it to NYC.

None.

Just let them go back to

Just let them go back to running coke like they did ten years ago. That will off set their salaries.

Now they sell illegal fish instead

one of them got a lisc and it's used as a blanket permit for all of them, I wonder if they will put thier private boats on the fire dock for mini season again ?
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