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Ramsay faces Peteck in November

The three losers in last month's primary for Monroe County sheriff are backing Democrat Tom Peteck, creating an alliance that doesn't surprise Republican and current Undersheriff Rick Ramsay, the longtime face of the agency who crushed his challenger in the same election.

The race for sheriff is being branded by the recently retired 24-year Sheriff's Office veteran, Peteck, as a contest between the establishment elite in Ramsay versus the hard-scrabble road patrol deputies whom Peteck says he best represents.

Peteck views Ramsay "as the incumbent" in the race, citing Ramsay's ties to Sheriff Bob Peryam, who announced he would not run for re-election in November. Ramsay declared his intention to fill the void the same day in a move that raised few eyebrows.

Nonetheless, Peteck optimistically points out that if all the voters who cast ballots for Republican Jake Brady of Marathon, Democrat Deputy Matt Koval and State Attorney's Office investigator Edwin "Bill" Grove vote for him, he would receive 3,000 more votes than Ramsay received in the primary.

However, historically more voters turn out in the general election than in the partisan primary. Ramsay won the Republican primary with 72 percent of the vote, and Peteck won the Democratic primary race by 62 percent.

With those numbers behind him, Peteck said he is undeterred. He said he wants to "cut fat at the top" of the agency and put sworn deputies who now sit behind desks on the street.

"Throughout the years they've taken deputies off the street for budgetary reasons and added administrative staff," Peteck said. "We need to give taxpayers the biggest bang for their buck."

Peteck said there are about 35 sworn deputies that could be on the street and that their experience is needed on the street to help guide a younger staff.

But such a view only highlights Peteck's inexperience, said Ramsay, who noted that the public hears the same song during every sheriff's race.

"Every political season we hear this," he said. "It doesn't matter who the boss is, he's wrong. How can [Peteck] make that determination? I mean no disrespect, but he's never been a sergeant. He has no experience running the agency. What is that based on? The reality is when the budget crashed, we made cuts across the board at all levels. We cut the deputy director of [human resources], we got rid of a lieutenant position at the jail. We got rid of a captain position in special operations. Our budget is nearly back to 2005 levels."

Removing administrative staff and putting them on the street is not realistic, Ramsay said. Detectives, he noted, cannot work road patrol and investigate crimes at the same time.

"I know of zero other agencies that work that way," Ramsay said. "You can't just demote people. There are job protections. If you took all the command staff and detectives and demoted them down and put them on the road, what career opportunities would exist for rank-and-file deputies? Are you really creating advancement opportunities with a system like that? There has to be upward mobility in the agency. If we want to discuss morale issues, what do you think that would do to morale?"

Ramsay said the Sheriff's Office has researched other similarly sized agencies and found its organizational numbers fall in line with other law enforcement agencies.

Much of Peteck's pre-primary platform focused on the importance of community policing, the philosophy that the community should work closely with law enforcement in preventing and solving crime. That position hasn't changed, he said.

"I think we need more community input," Peteck said. "We're made up of many pocket communities and what works best in Key Largo may not be the best solution for Stock Island."

Peteck's statements prompted Ramsay to wonder where his opponent has worked for the last 24 years.

"Every third patrol car has a bike rack, and we have active bike patrols as well as a Sheriff's Office representative at nearly every board up and down the Keys," Ramsay said. "We're at every chamber, Rotary and Guidance Center meeting, just to name a few. There are officers at every level of community involvement in this county. The Sheriff's Office is a good partner in this community."

Peteck, however, says he is committed to increasing that partnership, and doesn't view the status quo as sufficient.

Ramsay's war chest -- $140,896, according to campaign finance records -- towers over Peteck's $20,486 campaign fund. But Peteck sees his opponent's fat campaign wallet as a metaphor for what's wrong with Sheriff's Office brass.

"Money and signs are part of it, but not all of [a successful campaign]," Peteck said. "He spent twice as much as I did and when you look at the Sheriff's Office budget, do you continue to throw money at it or take a different approach? I'm asking voters if they want to accept the way things are, or take a look a things under a new light?"

Ramsay was unmoved.

"Our budget is $900,000 below what it was in 2006, and our retention figures are the best they have been in decades," Ramsay said. "Crime is down. I'm still charging toward the general election in the same direction. We're asking voters to look for the candidate who is the most qualified, has the most training, who brings the most experience to the table and has the most community support."

The general election is Nov. 6.

alinhardt@keysnews.com

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Don't Let Ramsey In

If you want the same corruption of Peryman... go ahead and vote for Ramsey. IF YOU WANT CHANGE MAKE IT HAPPEN. Break the blue noose that hangs around every citizen of the Keys.

Robert Krutko Strikes Again

Sheesh, here we go again with multiple posts by the same person under different screen names. Robert, you make it very easy to spot. Why do you even care? You don't live here. How about worrying about your own politics in Ohio?

Give it up

Cruz everyone here knows if Ramsay stops fast you bump into him lol. There is no "Robert" postings. Your attempt to spread misinformation is pathetic. Grow up Officer. Your MCSO green is showing. How's your 100k salary doing? you getting nervous?

Robert Krutko, Columbus, OH

Yep, that would be you! I'm surprised you didn't create a 4th screen name to reply. Say hi the Laura for me.

Writing is on the wall

The candidates running against Ramsay have never even been Sergeants. How they woke up one morning and decided they could be Sheriff is unknown. The whiners and malcontents have gathered, as evidenced by the verbose postings here. Ramsay is the only viable candidate, and will do a good job when elected.

Well Charles

You must certainly be above the rank of sergeant. Someone who chooses a name like that clearly needs to educate the rest of us, the inferior of the species. Chuck you fail to realize the majority of the voters who voted in August disagree with you, and voted for one of those unqualified candidates. If you continue to write that Rick is the only qualified candidate it still won't make it true. Quick civics lesson for you Chuck, primary elections are used to choose candidates for the general election in November. At this piont there are two candidates running, one democrat and one republican. The only qualification to be a candidate in the general election is that the person won the primary. That's how our system works. Your grossly inflated opinion of yourself and Ramsay does not surprise me at all, in fact I have seen the same attitude in most of if not all of the current high ranking administrators in the sheriffs office. It seems Ramsay might even tell you want to think. After all you have to be on the same page when you attend all those chamber of commerce meetings and rotorary meetings, on duty, being paid with our tax dollars, to campaign for Ramsay. I wonder if all the current administration used vacation time to hold Ramsay signs on August 14 th, or did we pay for that also. I'm sure a few county cars were driven around that day. Maybe when captains and chiefs go into local businesses, in uniform, to ask to place Ramsay signs or ask people to remove other signs, maybe Charles Darwin does know that is skirting an ethical line. Mr Darwin please explain why our high ranking sheriffs employees are intimidating employees and citizens like jackbooted thugs. Please Mr Darwin, or should I say Captain Darwin, explain that strategy to the rest of us inferior citizens. Please pay attention to the heavy handed intimidation tactics of the sheriffs office during this campaign, and ask yourself are these the people we want to remain in charge of our sheriffs office. These people like Charles Darwin think very little about the rest of us and should not be trusted with that much power.

hmmm

You say the writing is on the wall so do we assume the you support Ramsay, a Sheriffs Officer who has already been caught in the act of lying to the public from the campaign stage? Its on youtube for everyone to see and that's a cold stone fact! I reiterate again, Ramsay has been promoting himself on this 900k budget issue since the beginning, HOWEVER it's not true and had the Governor not cut the 900k from the county budget by relieving the county's cost for retirement of it's officers the budget would be more than last year. Don't forget even with the Governors cut, Peryam is still currently asking for MORE money for the sheriffs budget. If your candidates lack of integrity by lying is your idea of a viable candidate for sheriff, then maybe your on the wrong side of the bars to start with.

Your comment is absurd

You certainly can not ascertain how adept a candidate is for a job just because they have not held a title or rank. Rank does not reflect how much work is done nor how much knowledge is accumulated by a person. I can attest that the boss secretary is just as adapt and performing their bosses job as the boss. Too many times the worker who does the job is bypassed for the credit while the titled person takes the credit for a job they did not do themselves. How you, Charles Darwin, woke up one morning and decided you could make an intelligent post based on no facts is unknown. Go back to your evolution theories and maybe in a few thousand years you can catch up to the rest of civilization. until then your postings are just a dull joke.

Whiners and Malcontents

"You certainly can not ascertain how adept a candidate is for a job just because they have not held a title or rank" LOL. You sound like the type who has no education but "is smarter than everyone else". Using your theory, you could just as easily be the President. Ramsay is clearly the most qualified candidate for the job, and will be an excellent Sheriff WHEN he's elected. The other candidates, especially in the primary, were so unqualified as to be a joke.

So says who?

Just because you say it won't make it true. Ramsay's days are numbered. He may be able to fool some of the people some of the time however we who do not work for the sheriffs office can see what he really is, arrogant and out of touch with the community. Too bad Darwin, you post here in fear of your bloated administrative salary being cut. the only people who post anything positive for Ramsay are the ones he is paying to do so or those he will owe in the future... how sad!

Does Real Journalism Exist in the Keys anymore?

This is not even close to being a fair and balanced report Mr. Lindhardt. There were two other stories regarding these candidates in August and May of this year. In both stories, reader's comments pointed the paper to several potential investigative reports of alleged misconduct by people running for the sheriff's office. Where were the follow up stories? Where are the "off the record" interviews with all the current and recently retired members of the MCSO to gather what their impressions of Mr. Peteck and Mr. Ramsay are? Where is the review of both candidates personnel records and FDLE certification files? If you are not going to do real objective journalism, then please find another line of work.

Innovation

I find it refreshing that Peteck has ideas of how to make the Sheriff's office generate revenue. It appears that Ramsay has no vision for the future but to walk in the same old worn out shoes of the past sheriffs. Our sheriffs office has lacked insight-fulness and innovation for a long time. Mr Ramsay, I say to you, it can always be done better and nothing is constant but change. I do believe Peteck can increase moral of the troops, not talking about the over paid bloated admin staff but the everyday office trying to make a living and taking care of their family. Change is good! I saw Ramsay speak not to long ago, it's obvious watching Ramsay's cocky attitude he believes he will win this race. Someone may want to tell him not to count his chickens before they hatch. As I see it with 8 years to do so in his current position, Ramsay really brings nothing new to the table. I vote change! it will be a breath of fresh air.

LOL

The statement "Ramsay was unmoved" says it all. Reading this article I was hit with the concept of Ramsay being a man who feels he is entitled. I personally don't think he has earned the office of sheriff. It should be held by on who has ethics and is beyond reproach. Ramsay's closet skeletons are rattling. I would like to know after looking though Ramsay's sheriff's office personnel file where his reprimand is for the loaded gun he left on the seat of his unlocked open door patrol car when he was a road officer? Those reports are supposed to be maintain for the life of the personnel file are they not? Who clean up his record for him and why isn't it there? What else has Ramsay had swept under the carpet that he doesn't want us the people to know about? Can the Citizen please ask him about that incident. Integrity is stating the whole truth, it appears Ramsays is lacking in integrity too bad his personality won't make up for it. Big No to Ramsay!

OK

So Ramsay's arrogant attitude prevails? Whats news about that. The Citizen just keeps printing the same old words Ramsay spews. We need a fresh perspective at the Sheriffs office. Peryam was just a Roth 2.0 and Ramsay will only be a Roth 3.0. Enough is enough Ramsay is so self important he believes it's "his turn" to be sheriff. Really Ramsay whats wrong with you? You have not earned this office nor do you have the temperament to lead out of anything but fear and intimidation. This isn't Germany and you don't have my vote or a lot of your officers votes but I guess you'll realize that on election day. Maybe the other contenders would have been promoted further in the sheriffs office if they had been the ones answering the call at Colonel McDonald's residence so long ago. Must be nice to be owed in the bubba system, however they still own you!

Truth Hurts

Lets dissect the LIES shall we. NO#1 Ramsay didn't save any 900k from the budget it was given to the sheriffs office by Governor Scot (Ref http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/broward/blog/2011/10/gov_s... ) "Led by Gov. Scott, the state Legislature took the knife to a retirement plan that until now had been held sacred, the Florida Retirement System, or FRS. The fallout rained across the state, to counties, school boards, sheriff’s offices and cities whose employees or elected officials are in the same retirement plan, the FRS, and are now contributing 3 percent of their pay – money the local governments used to pay." So you see Ramsay saved nothing. Ramsay has been promoting himself on this budget issue since the beginning, HOWEVER it's not true. NO#2 "Every third patrol car has a bike rack, and we have active bike patrols as well" Ramsay may say they have them HOWEVER after 52 years of living in the keys I can count on both hands the number of times Ive seen these officers actually get on those bikes and ride around neighborhoods. In fact until Ramsay announced he was running you didn't see them at all so we have to wonder if it's Campaign orders to ride the bikes cause it sure it's NOT being done for the community. I saw a pair riding in my neighbor once and they couldn't even be bothered to wave. No#3 Ramsay says "Every political season we hear this," he said. "It doesn't matter who the boss is, he's wrong. How can [Peteck] make that determination? I mean no disrespect, but he's never been a sergeant. He has no experience running the agency. What is that based on?" Maybe someone should enlighten Ramsay in his out of touch, 138k a year, ivory tower and tell him look around people are not happy. The sheriff officers act as tho they do you a favor to speak to you. There is no real community policing other than his cronies intimidating business to put up his campaign signs. I would dare say the the three other people who ran for sheriff combined with officer Peteck's years on the force far out weight Ramsay's experience being a gofor boy for the real elected sheriff. At least these officers have the courage to come out publicly against the sheriff's office bubba system and tell the community the truth. Sheriff Billy Freeman had no formal "Office Running" experience when he was elected but did such a bang up job, community buildings were named after him. Or is Ramsay now saying Freeman was a bad sheriff? I'll tell you this Freeman brought a clean new perspective to the sheriffs office and made it better because he wasn't stuck in the narrow minded vision we currently have in charge, which will continue if Ramsay gets his way. Ramsay says "Removing administrative staff and putting them on the street is not realistic" Well I guess not realistic for Ramsay who favors big government and big administration at the sheriffs office. This is the same out look Acevedo had at the school board. What it comes down to is too many chiefs not enough Indians. The article states that Ramsay is the "longtime face of the agency". I equate that to the face of arrogance. I want my public servant to be just that, a servant. Humble and with the public's best interest at heart. I fear the only thing we will get with Ramsay is a king in a kingdom of his own making. Shame on Monroe county residence if we allow him to reign.

Anyone but Ramsay

We will be so sorry if Ramsay is elected, he will bring new meaning to "Tax and Spend". Anyone but Ramsay, he is an ego maniac and not someone you would trust.
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