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Thursday, October 4, 2012
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Left turns banned at 2 intersections
FDOT adjusts to prevent backups; tourists say project OK

Two new detours will be added to city streets for the North Roosevelt Boulevard construction project, an engineer said Wednesday.

Now, no left turns will be permitted for downtown-bound traffic on Truman Avenue, onto either White or Simonton streets.

Florida Department of Transportation project supervisor Charlie Phinizy said the ban on left turns is being put in place at the request of Key West city officials.

Phinizy made a presentation to the City Commission at a special meeting Wednesday night during which commissioners and members of the public asked questions about the two-year, $41.5 million project.

He and others associated with the project faced tough questions from the handful of residents who attended.

The low-bid contract agreement, Phinizy explained, held the answer to many of their questions, as well as those raised in a recent Key West Citizen editorial.

Its terms preclude any moving up of dates -- with the exception of bonuses if crews finish up to six months early.

"We are going to do the best we can to do this project and get people in and out of Key West," Phinizy said.

The information on the Truman left-turn bans direct conflicted with a statement last week from FDOT spokesman Dean Walters, who had said that while the city had requested the change, the state was resistant to the idea.

The left-turn restriction was cited as a method to avoid the common traffic backup caused by a would-be turner.

Officials also learned that a city ordinance suspending noise laws for the Roosevelt project -- to allow some night work -- will be effective for only a handful of nights when workers will be present.

Assistant City Manager David Fernandez said two intersections, North Roosevelt at Truman and at Eisenhower Drive, will see brief spurts of night work involving removal of pipes from beneath the road.

Commissioners also learned that a survey of tourists conducted by the Monroe County Tourist Development Council revealed few adverse effects for visitors polled.

"The survey was conducted at 15 locations throughout Key West, at attractions and hotels near the site and elsewhere," said TDC researcher Jessica Bennett. "We asked people if this project would impact their decision to come back to Key West in the future, and 99 percent said no ... what most people tell us is, 'You should see the traffic where I live.'"

Among the critics was Seidenberg Avenue resident Robert Cintron, who questioned the judgment of several key decisions on traffic flow.

"I have heard nothing so far that indicates to me the folks working on this project get it," Cintron said. "There is a very severe impact on the businesses; it is also having a severe impact on the taxpayers who have used the roads, who are paying for this project ... .

"Are these people who claim to be experts on this traffic, are they staying up at night, and are they worrying about what we are going through dealing with this traffic? Do you understand that people's businesses are going to close? Do you understand what you need to do to correct the problem?"

Mayor Craig Cates and other officials encouraged anyone who cares about the fate of businesses on North Roosevelt to ask them.

Commissioners said they thought the meeting was productive, although several wished there had been a bigger turnout.

"I am disappointed that more people did not turn out in person,' said Commissioner Clayton Lopez. "I can accept for now that we are limited with what we can do to make change, but I cannot accept that there is nothing we can do."

jdesantis@keysnews.com

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I've watched the workmen, what few there are, on N. Roosevelt

As for night work - none Friday night for sure. I saw maybe 5 at the corner of N. Roosevelt and Eisenhower on Thursday night. Other than that, NONE.

The biggest concern is day workers. There are almost no day workers. I read this in the Citizens Voice yesterday:

"At 10:30 a.m. Oct. 3 on North Roosevelt from the Triangle to Kennedy Drive: No workers on site. Kennedy to Overseas Market: two workers listening to el jefe, three inactive; from there down to bight: one man sitting in pickup.

At 11:30 a.m., Triangle to bight: only change is el jefe left.

At 12:15 p.m., Triangle to Kennedy: one man sitting in pickup. ... Kennedy to Overseas Market: several men working. ... etc. Gimme a flippin' break! Somebody's head needs to roll"

On Thursday, I didn't even see that much activity. I've already come to have no regard for the company doing the work, the people doing the work nor the government officials who signed the worthless contract. It all stinks of fraud to me.

I'm Watching You...

Let's see, you support...

1. Channel widening

2. Amphibious DUCKS

3. Mandatory trolleys

Do you work for HTA?

Was this supposed to be a reply?

I think this was supposed to be addressed to "Bad Dog"

Matzaball

Even if it was, I don't care. BUT just to satisfy your curiosity I own my own non-tourist business and have no affiliation with HTA or those invisible donuts shops you and your cronies frequent.

If you had lived here all your life you would realize that none of the above could ruin Key West anymore than it already is.

Heel!

Heel! Bad Dog, Heel!

Not the same exactly.

All sorts of "residential" streets are impacted by the construction. Mostly though, the argument is weak because you will have cars turning onto various side streets evening out the traffic. Of course, the tourists will NOT likely know there are no left turns and will end up in Bahama Village or somewhere. Personally I think Packer St. should be one way, so that will be lots of fun for anyone going the other direction. OF COURSE, they could change the TRAFFIC LIGHT at Simonton and Truman putting in a left turn arrow with straight ahead light, so all the heavy traffic gets to move into town smoothly. Anyone with any sense won't be going out of town on Truman, they will be on South Street already or Eaton, or something. I think the traffic in that direction is already much lighter than usual. Of course this town has no traffic engineers or anyone with a clue.

No left turns

This is one of the most idiotic ideas I have ever heard of. If someone has to turn left off of Truman, they have to turn left somewhere. If not at White St then they will turn left at Varela or Watson or Grinnell or Packer, etc. and the cars behind them will still get backed up. Besides these are residential streets and should not have this increased traffic. The answer is to eliminate 3 or 4 of the parking spaces on White St. in front of the Harvey Center that could be turned into an East bound lane and then a left turn lane can be established on Truman onto White to eliminate any back ups.

Total Waste of Time.

Last night's meeting was a total waste of time. The most important denominator in the project was not even present, maybe its because it was not in his Construction Contract. Commissioner Weekee was the only one who tried to hold people accountable but he didn't have any support, all the other Commissioners were to busy thanking everybody for the job they are doing... Whoa something wrong with this picture!I would have thought Commissioner Yaniz would have been out hard on this issue. By the way this is a State of Florida (FDOT) project, there is NO Federal relief monies available, plus we don'tneed Horan squeezing out more undeserved money from the State or Federal Governments. Buckle down and get people working that's what needs to happen, ride by and take a look at how many workers they have on the job, you would be surprised, or maybe you have already noticed that.

This is nothing but a

This is nothing but a TARFUN! FF is on it's way October 19-27 and heavy traffic will follow suite during the week. Ongoing till 2014!, as long as there are no interruptions that will make any delays and everything is on track.

Always the #1 concern!

"Commissioners also learned that a survey of tourists conducted by the Monroe County Tourist Development Council revealed few adverse effects for visitors polled." Isn't that great!! So only the locals, the land owners, the tax payers, their family and friends and children, are inconvenienced. Only about 50 or so businesses on the roads will be put out of busines and maybe 300-500 jobs lost- but not to worry, tourists aren't upset... it's all good then!

This is a good idea.

Even without all the construction, left turns onto Simonton from Truman should not be allowed during the rush hour, at minimum. One car holds up the traffic for the entire light cycle trying to make a left turn. Traffic gets backed up way down Truman as a result. This is at least one good idea.

I agree

but perhaps a left turn lane and light .... then again that would take 5 years and encroach on precious property. Frankly, I'd like to see tourists park in one of the plazas and take a trolley or bus downtown.

GOOD IDEA

Agreed Dan. I have thought that for years!
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