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Duval pedestrian mall being considered
One commissioner sees it stretching from the Atlantic to Gulf

A pedestrian mall stretching from the Gulf of Mexico to the Atlantic Ocean, where strollers can meander in and out of galleries, stop for lunch or cocktails while enjoying the island breeze is the vision one Key West city commissioner has for Duval Street, the island's gallery and entertainment hub.

The idea of turning Key West's most famous street into a pedestrian mall has been floated before, without success.

But Commissioner Tony Yaniz said recently that he thinks the time is right, and that past attempts can serve as learning tools if the city really wants to make the idea work.

A resolution that would require city staff to research the question for the next six months is on the agenda for Wednesday night's City Commission meeting.

"Let's look into it," Yaniz said. "They do this all over the U.S., all over Europe, and it has changed the dynamics. Every time we shut down parts of Duval Street people come, including locals. It becomes a welcoming scenario as opposed to a tourist trap."

Mayor Craig Cates acknowledges that turning major streets into pedestrian thoroughfares has worked well in some places, but that Duval contains complications that must be closely examined.

"There are a lot of obstacles," he said. "There is access there to a lot of alleys that don't come out the back side. I don't mind looking into it but I think there is going to be quite a bit of pushback."

Last year Commissioner Jimmy Weekley proposed shutting down the 500 and 600 blocks of Duval on specific evenings as a "café zone." But there were complaints about the idea from businesses that were not included in the plan. Yaniz says that's why an ocean-to-ocean pedestrian mall will work, with the potential of most business owners behind it.

Weekley disagrees, however, noting that his proposal was meant as a trial balloon, to see if turning a limited area of Duval into a mall would work, to see what difficulties might be encountered.

"Most people crawl before they walk," said Weekley, who hopes that, if city staff is directed to look at the idea, all potentials including a limited demonstration will be considered.

Commissioner Mark Rossi, who owns the Rick's/Durty Harry's entertainment complex on Duval, is flat-out opposed to the idea.

"It doesn't make sense," he said, noting its status as one of the "10 Great Streets for 2012" named by the American Planning Association's Great Places in America program. "It's one of the 10 best streets, are you going to change it now? Duval isn't broke, don't fix it."

Rossi acknowledged that making Duval a pedestrian mall for its entire 1-mile stretch would affect his business, in ways he does not welcome.

"It would affect the whole ambience," he said. "People cruising the street and going up and down, and the whole nine yards."

Because of the potential of a conflict, he plans to consult with City Attorney Shawn Smith to determine whether he must recuse himself from the discussion and vote.

Some business owners say they are open to the possibility, and wouldn't mind seeing the city at least look into it.

Stephanie Mitchell, one of the operators of the 7 Artists Galleries on the 600 block of Duval, said a look is warranted.

"I don't think it would be a horrible thing," she said. "It definitely increases foot traffic and as far as the environment is concerned it's good. I would say yes if it were something to be voted on."

jdesantis@keysnews.com

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Not a good idea

How about getting rid of the nasty "5 dolla!" shops and pedicabs first??

Good idea, but it will not work

Since the a city is run by Ed Swift this will not work. There is no way to accommodate the ever increasing number of Trolleys, trams, trains and duck tours on the neighboring streets. It already takes 20 minutes to drive the one mile length of whitehead street on peak cruise ship days. Before we hire a pedestrian mall Tzar, waste city staff hours and tee up a few hundred grand for studies, how about answering the basic question of what happens to all The tourist vehicles already using Duval? Spent the money widening the sidewalks, planting trees and controlling the mix of businesses. Duval sucks not due to cars, but due to the fact that most of it is bars, tee shirt shops, and fury rental booths with touts on every corner. Clean it up and they will come.

Terrible idea!

Although this works in Europe, it would be a terrible idea here. Whitehead and Simonton would be constantly clogged with traffic as well as Front St and South St at either end. This would be exacerbated by the Ed Swift cartel of conch train, etc. and City Trolley while the tourist drive up and down and everyone points and nothing moves!

Duval Street Pedestrian Mall

This is a Wonderful Idea. Hats off to Commissioner Yaniz. You will definitely have my vote and support for this idea. There is absolutely no reason that vehicles need to be on Duval street. There is almost no parking left on Duval street other than on the extreme South end and the congestion is making it dangerous for bicyclists and pedestrians. Key West would be wise to follow the lead of Miami Dade County in what they did with Lincoln Road. That is a wonderful dining-shopping experience. While I normally hold similar positions to that of Mark Rossi, I clearly am in disagreement with him on this issue and feel that he should recuse himself from any decisions on this matter, due to his current ownership of businesses on Duval.

What a minute here!

This has been discussed before and there are lots of practical issues. Making it the entire length of Duval is NOT workable for countless reasons. But if something like that was done, there should be bike lanes, especially for the pedicabs. Can you imagine if all the vehicle traffic was shifted off of Duval to Simonton and Whitehead and we had to deal with the slow pedicabs along with the trams and trollys? It would be a nightmare and accidents would be sure to happen. The real issue is that there are no viable alternatives to take all of the Duval traffic.

Time passes us by - Sleazy Duval St

Way to go Tony - it's about time. Love your idea. Maybe we will bring our business back to Duval if your plan happens. This designation of a "great" street - those people could not have ever experienced our Duval St. It's time this government did something to improve our island, other cities have improved their down town shopping areas - why can't we.?

Been done before

This concept isn't new it has been tried and has failed. How about coming up with ways to beautify Duval Street?

Anything!!!

Anything Fatboy is for..... I am against.

YES! One hundred percent YES!

Once again Commissioner Yaniz speaks for the people!

Many of us have been pushing for this for years. It simply makes sense. Old Town as it is today is too crowded, with both pedestrians and motor vehicles. All of that traffic can be split between Whitehead and Simonton, leaving much more room for people to window-shop and buy on Duval St.

I'd also like to see the asphalt torn up and replaced with old Key West bricks. Landscape the middle with planters and Royal Palms. Drive the seedy t-shirt businesses and strip joints out and replace them with Tiffany's, Saks and other high-end businesses. Let's raise our standards and our income!

And no, Rossi should not be allowed to vote on this... as he was so illegally on the cruise ship issues.

Huh?

I thought you were totally against this idea, back when it was being talked about for the 500 and 600 blocks.

You are correct.

I was absolutely opposed to Weekley's select closing of one block, which would have benefited only certain businesses while leaving others to fend for themselves.

I also thought the idea sucked because no one would want to sit and eat dinner in the middle of a street covered with urine and vomit. Inherent in any plan to mall Duval Street must be a method of dealing with drunks and bums. We need to cull bars and completely eliminate trashy, crooked Israeli t-shirt shops.

Clean up Duval, mall it, and invite high-end business. That's our financial ticket to success in Key West. Hell, even The Citizen, our state's most liberal newspaper, endorsed Mitt Romney! That gives us hope.

Mac. the bricks look nice but they

just don't hold up very well. They installed them at the Historic seaport in areas and now they are baddly degraded. and under the asphalt on Duval; are already a layer of bricks the City paved over.
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