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Wednesday, January 23, 2013
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Local reaction mixed for Obama plan

FLORIDA KEYS -- The plan announced by President Obama last week to curb gun violence drew mixed reaction from local mental health professionals, public officials and gun shop owners.

Obama's plan, which he brought forward just over a month after the Dec. 14 Newtown massacre, includes $500 million in federal funding to improve school safety, expand the nation's mental health network for students and young adults, incentivize states to share data from background checks and more.

But it's his proposals to ban assault weapons, limit bullet magazines to 10 rounds and require universal background checks that are drawing the most attention and controversy.

In Key West this week, the City Commission is expected to heed the advice of the city's Police Chief Donnie Lee by passing a resolution that urges Congress to go forward with those measures. In Islamorada, meanwhile, Village Mayor Ken Philipson said he plans to raise the same issue for discussion before the Village Council soon, but he wants to go one step further by proposing that the village require owners of semi-automatic weapons to keep those guns secured under lock and key.

"I want everything in a safe," Philipson said.

Not everyone, though, is as eager to embrace the Obama plan. Monroe County Sheriff Rick Ramsay said last week that he's going to stay out of the debate.

"My job is to enforce the laws. We're not policy makers," Ramsay said. "I do believe in an individual's right to own and bear arms and also reasonable gun regulations."

Meanwhile, County Commissioner David Rice panned Obama's proposed gun control measures, calling them "unworkable."

"I think it is woefully narrow," Rice said. "Do we care whether our kids are killed with baseball bats or with guns?"

Unsurprisingly, Tom Kiffney, the Monroe County Sheriff's Office sergeant who owns Kiffney's Firearms Indoor Range in Key Largo, shares Rice's view on an assault weapons ban and on limiting the size of magazines.

"You're definitely going to keep law-abiding citizens from obtaining these items. Criminals, they don't abide by the law," Kiffney said. He added that there are already so many high-capacity magazines and clips on the streets that curbing size now wouldn't make a dent.

But Kiffney embraced the remainder of the Obama plan, including universal background checks and the 23 executive orders the president signed last week. Among those orders are directives on new federal gun violence research, establishing a national gun safety campaign and making more background check data available, especially between states.

The plan calls for $230 million to go toward school safety measures and $155 to bolster the availability of mental health services for children and young adults.

On the school side, Obama has asked that most of the money be provided directly to school districts and law enforcement agencies to hire safety officers, counselors and psychologists and to train school staff on how to foster safe and nurturing on-campus environments.

Monroe County School District Superintendent Mark Porter said he's happy the plan focuses on training and emphasizes local control.

"I am hearing a preventative type of message, not just responsive measures," Porter said. "That's the approach we want to take."

Frank Rabbito, senior vice president of the Guidance Care Clinic in Marathon, the Florida Keys' only state- and county-funded outpatient mental health facility, said he also likes Obama's approach, with its emphasis on training teachers and child caregivers to recognize mental health warning signs.

"Clearly additional revenue which trains people in early intervention and prevention will improve the quality of life for these kids and improve safety," said Rabbito, who also noted that the beefed-up Medicaid funding that the federal government is offering the states under Obamacare should also bolster the country's mental health network.

But not everybody is so optimistic about the mental health portion of the Obama gun violence plan.

Rice, a clinical psychologist who founded the Guidance Care Clinic, said the most important change that needs to happen here in the Keys is to make it easier for authorities to keep potentially violent people with a mental health history in treatment. That's something that is governed under state law.

He also said that the sums of money Obama has proposed for school safety and improvements to the mental health network are inadequate.

rsilk@keysnews.com

Staff writer Gwen Filosa contributed to this report.

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Right out of the Florida Statute FSS 790

And yet again more proof that the City of Key West Commission and their mindless liberal followers waste the time of the island residents with the delusions of banning guns and Hi-Cap Magazines. FSS 790. "Except as expressly provided by the State Constitution or general law, the Legislature hereby declares that it is occupying the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, storage, and transportation thereof, to the exclusion of all existing and future county, city, town, or municipal ordinances or any administrative regulations or rules adopted by local or state government relating thereto. Any such existing ordinances, rules, or regulations are hereby declared null and void." Too all the Anti Gun liberals, all I can say is keep dreaming of a fantasy world where the bad guys dont carry guns, and Us REAL AMERICANS, will be here standing guard like we have been. CAPT. JARVIS SOP9

Really?

WOW!

Archie Bunker had it right on gun control...

Gun control is not new, it raises it's ugly head every ten + years or so. I was in high school when President Regan and James Brady were shot in an attempt to assassinate one of the best presidents we have had in this century. What followed was the Brady bill. Click on the YouTube link to see Archie's view in the 1970's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

yeah obama is a visionary

like Hitler and Stalin and Karl Marx.....big government..do as I say not as I do...rule over every move....one bad apple spoils the bunch....hypocrites!!!!

The problem....with FOOLS:

Throughout history.....which has repeated itself time after time......when a country gives away it's privately owned weapons.....in the name of peace.......WAR....immediately follows. Look at the countries that were disarmed, one by one, during WW ll....by Hitler. Then they came in.....and forced them into cattle cars and slaughtered them....to create "The pure Arien race". WHY.....couldn't that happen here? Look at how many freedoms....OUR government has taken away from us.....over the past 4 years. Slowly...but surely. One...by one. Look up TYRANNY in the dictionary. How can anyone....be stupid enough to believe that it's even remotely possible to control......40 million weapons? You could put a ban on everything today.....and it wouldn't.....and couldn't ....impact anything. FOOLS. "The government that governs LEAST....governs...BEST." Henry David Thoreau.

The City of Key West Commission has Violated F.S S. 790.33

Resolution enacted January 23, 2013 by the City of Key West Commission. As per my understanding, a resolution is an Enactment of Policy, by which the city of Key West Commissioners have clearly violated Florida StatE Statute 790.33 On the minutes shown in PDF format available on the City of Key West Website for January 23, 2013 , inside that PDF there is another PDF showing the resolution to ban Assault Weapons , and High Capacity magazines. From my understanding of the F.S. 790.33- 2 (b) and F.S.790.33 -3 (a). It appears that the City of Key West Commissioners, & Mayor have violated this section of the Florida State Statute. The City of Key West, its Commissioners and Mayor do not have authority over firearms what so ever, as per the Florida Legislature, nor can they enact any type of policy, ordinance, and or law towards this matter. The violation in this matter is on record as of January 23, 2013. The city of Key West commission in no shape or form is above the laws of the State of Florida. Respectfully, SOP9

If it only were true...

The laws bans ordinances and regulations; it does not ban resolutions, which have no rule of law and cannot be enforced. I suspect they passed the resolution because they know they would be violating the law by passing an ordinance (unlike Islamorada Mayor Ken Philipson who did advocate violating the law in a quote in this article). So they can waste their time and taxpayer money on resolutions, but they are powerless to do anything substantive. While there may be pockets of anti-gun sentiment within cities like Key West the majority of the people and politicians of the State of Florida believe in gun rights.

KWHS

While you are looking over improving safety -please take a look at the fence that has been closed and locked on the auditorium side. Supposedly to keep wayward trauncy down, but what I see is a rat trap. Any psycho coming after kids in the courtyard has a 100% chance of total annhilation if they run towards the auditorium side, they are trapped and can be easily killed en masse.

Mixed?... or Misled!?

The threat of Tyranny today is no less a threat today than it was 235 years ago! Those unwilling to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it! Human history teaches us that power corrupts, Rome, China, Nazi Germany, all should be learning lessons that our founding fathers meant to protect us from! What good will a firearm do you in a locked safe when an intruder meaning you harm breaks into your house!? Those of you wishing to change our constitution that has kept us free for 236 years should try another country that practices what you preach call for! What pert of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

Insanity

I am sure there is a pill to cure you, Italian Rose. If you would like to live in that type of country, why not move to Great Britain? You can have a monarchy, a weapons ban, gay agenda, universal healthcare, no second amendment, etc. Sounds like you prefer to be a subject over a citizen.

Civilization

The UK is one of the few civilized countries in the world and we can learn much from them on becoming a progressive, compassionate, peace loving, unarmed civilized society.

Don't let the screen door hit you

where the good lord split you. Enjoy GB and goodbye.

The Italian Rose Sheep needs to go move to the U.K.

It is people like you Italian Rose that make this country weak. The U.K. in comparison to Mexico in the idea that banning all guns for Lawful Citizens helps reduce gun violence. The criminals will do what ever they want with what ever gun they want. If you don't like the current way this country is structured then its time for you to move back to where ever you came from and take your silly ideas, and ridiculous comments with you. Completely Dis-respectfully, SOP9

Like the reply says Rose

Why don't you move to the UK then? Most red blooded Americans born and bred here like our freedom just the way it IS! 236 years and counting!

President Obama

President Obama is a visionary. Assault Weapons ban now, and hopefully all guns later. He will help us lock in Roe v. Wade and remove some of the detractors to Roe v. Wade. He will give Gay and Lesbian couples equal protection under the law as enjoyed by straight couples and make marriage a fundamental right for all. He will redistribute the wealth of the nation so every American can experience the American dream. Congress must repeal the 2nd amendment so Congress and the President can ban all guns, confiscate them and keep children safe. We need to repeal the 22nd amendment, which states a president could only serve two terms. President Obama is just entering his prime and America will be a much better country if President Obama could serve way more than just two terms.

Your village just called

It was wondering where you went

Unrealistic goals hurt Obama

The odds of just getting the proposed changes to assault weapons and magazine size are pretty long, the odds of repeal of any amendment are zero. Do you realize when you take such extreme positions you undermine the effectiveness of your beloved Obama? Those people who believe in the right to carry guns now mobilize against ANY gun control specifically because some people take extreme positions and they do not wish to encourage them. That is why even common sense changes to gun laws are fought with vigor. And you talk about redistributing wealth. This is the same thing, those with money will fight any increase in entitlement to avoid encouraging people who want to take away everything they have. No, thanks to extremists like you, Obama won't accomplish more than he did in the last four years. You should be proud.

What the hell are you smoking?

The rest of us are chomping at the bit to have this jerk impeached.

Umm NO

No mac- we are not.

Ummm

Cant speak for "we" but I too am waiting

Mayor Philipson best be careful!

He is planning to become a criminal himself. Guess the anti-gun faction is at least partly right, guns can make themselves commit crimes!

§790.33 Florida Statutes - Field of regulation of firearms and ammunition preempted

"Except as expressly provided by general law, the Legislature hereby declares that it is occupying the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, and transportation thereof, to the exclusion of all existing and future county, city, town, or municipal ordinances or regulations relating thereto. Any such existing ordinances are hereby declared null and void."

(b) It is further the intent of this section to deter and prevent the violation of this section and the violation of rights protected under the constitution and laws of this state related to firearms, ammunition, or components thereof, by the abuse of official authority that occurs when enactments are passed in violation of state law or under color of local or state authority.

Losing my vote one word at a time.

I'm a Florida Keys home owner and i'll be damned if theres not at least one firearm in my home ready to stop an intruder at any given moment, the rest of them can stay in my safe. I know who i'm not voting for in the future. I would like to see police officers and swat team members follow the same rules Mr. Donnie Lee is trying to force on us. This is stupid, lets take the gun rights away from law abiding citizens little by little and leave all the criminals alone to rob and kill us. When your children/relatives get killed and someone responsible with a firearm COULD HAVE helped but was'nt able to because you fed into all the BS that people like Donnie Lee are saying...DON'T EXPECT ME TO FEEL SORRY FOR YOU!

and if we took away cars

We would eliminate traffic deaths. ps Respect to southernmostsantana as a responsible gun owner who owns a gun and DOES NOT SHOOT PEOPLE as any normal person would know not to point a gun at anything you do not intend to shoot. AND the bs coverup of school bullying (if all the kids knew about it how is it noone else noticed)
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