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Friday, February 22, 2013
School locked down in gun scare
Two students detained for allegedly bringing realistic replica to school

It looked real enough.

But the Airsoft .45-caliber handgun replica two Horace O'Bryant Middle School students brought to school Wednesday turned out to be just that -- a pellet-shooting copy of an actual weapon.

The two pupils, who remain nameless due to their status as juveniles, were detained pending charges after a fellow schoolmate called her pa...

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priorities much?

How long had the intercom system been down prior to the non-incident? Thank goodness it was not a real emergency. Teachers can't address the common core standards or the big questions if they have to keep an eye on their computer screens for red-flag emails. What would Charlotte Danielson do?

I give up....

I give up. WHY....under the current "gun gun hysteria" atmosphere in America .....would these two idiots even consider bringing anything resembling a firearm .....into a school? SHOCK VALUE. That's why. No other reason. They....must be cool. Their idiots. There are tons of cases where the Police have mistook one of these "harmless" airsoft" pistols.....in the wrong lighting or in the wrong, drug induced situation ....and shot and killed the kid holding it. Shot....and killed the kid. And....you can't blame the cop. If a moron brings anything...that closely resembles a firearm into a school.......throw them out of school for good. Let them ....along with Daddy and Mommy....move somewhere else. No exceptions. No discussion. That....will end it. One clown will attempt it.....get thrown out......the talk will get around.....and that will be it. NO appeals. These kids must be brain dead to do something like this.

School police

Were in the world was the school police officer? I hope he wasn't eating at Dunkin Donuts. Parents need to talk to their children. And, when are the schools going to be effectively protected?

KW Drama!

I bet all the BUBBAS were calling eachother and repeating: CUZ-CUZ! Did u hear what happen at HOB??? LOLOL I bet the KW police dept was having a field day too! One big KW party! Tonigh all the BUBBAS get "boogered" and talk about all weekend long! lol For all you northeners, "boogered" means "coked-up" in KW language!LOL!

Cool story, bro

Cool story, bro

Resonable Response to Conditions

Given the threat level, this seems like a reasonable police response. As a retired officer myself, it's the response I'd have applied.

A high-powered response well in excess of the reported threat level could easily create more harm than good.

Imagine a full-throttled SWAT response, where heavily armed teams perform strategic assaults throughout the school. While such wasn't deployed during this event, you can bet they were already being assembled and at-the-ready; just not visible, nor need they be at that point.

Think about what was reported, a second-hand report of two middle school kids handling something that looked like a pistol. No report they were brandishing it about, threatening anyone, nor acting aggressively.

The best response is one that isolates the suspect(s), separates others from harm and doesn't cause the threat to intensify. All the while, having your heavy assault teams ready behind the scenes should the situation accelerate.

Sounds like police had a lot more information than they usually get with an active shooter senario. They had the rare luxury of knowing: who it was, where they were, and what they were doing.

That said, the PA system being broken is very troubling. These days, that's a critical part of any school's emergency system.

Get it together Porter

I really had high hopes for Porter but his response to this doesn't inspire any confidence about what his time here will be like. Even the Navy hospital has active shooter drills. The Navy Hospital. On a secure base. And yet when there is an actual threat in a school, the intercom doesn't even work. They notified the teachers by email? Because they all sit around and stare at their emails? No. This is ridiculous. Get it together. Times are changing. Just like the Cold War brought "duck and cover" drills, we need our kids to be prepared for today's threats.

Kids are in big trouble

Schools around the country are understandably cracking down on anything that resembles a gun even if it is a toy. These kids will probably be locked up until either their 18th or 21st birthday when 10-years ago they would be handed over to their parents for some tough love.

Uh..no

They were charged with a non-violent third degree felony. Do your research. Arrested, booked and released.

Common Sense Prevals

I had no way of knowing this, I am glad that common sense prevaled.

Hello Mr Porter this is REALITY calling with your wake up call

If the quotes attributed to you in this article are accurate, you must think we are stupid. You also believe you can bloviate about acceptable standards of school security, the effectiveness of metal detection devices, what constitutes an imminent threat, the adequateness of your parental notification system, etc etc etc. And believe for a minute you will not be called out for it.

Where to begin? I am a parent of a child in your school system and a retired Law Enforcement Executive. I know a fair amount about the threats posed to schools, acceptable security measures, and how to apply those measures based on differing threat environments present at each school.

Let's use my child's school as an example. The only thing standing between those children and harm is a three foot chain link gate and a sign telling "harm" to check in at the office. But thankfully after exhaustive analysis, you have determined we have built our schools in nice neighborhoods, in nice cities, in a nice county where nothing BAD ever happens, you have the luxury of doing little to reasonably secure access to our children while they are in your temporary care. Sir you have never been more wrong about anything else, than you are in what you have learned from this incident.

When was your last fire drill? Recently, I would say. When was your last active shooter drill? Never I say. Sounds odd doesn't it? When you put it that way. I know the Sheriff's Office and police agencies in our county are practicing such drills, but as was demonstrated here your staff needs to drill also.

Now the fallacy you put forth about "airsoft guns" and metal detectors. Sir everyone knows these weapons are made of metal, they are advertised as such and metal as small as a nickel can be detected by a metal detector. But apparently you already knew that, unless the one you are quoted as holding was made of that rare heavy plastic known as unobtainium.

Finally, as it relates to our children, their backpacks, and your perceived inconvenience of metal detectors. Sir there is no need to search every backpack of every child every day. Randomly check a dozen or so each day and that will suffice for now, for the young kids. But at the middle and high schools the time has come for enhanced security. That means a combination of security enhancements, everything from entry design up to metal detectors and security officers. I, no, we only ask for a well thought out, blended approach that after much public debate is agreed upon by parents and the school system.

Think about this, kids will act they way they see adults act. We adults grumble about airport security, but begrudgingly we all pass through security to get where we need to go. Schools should be no different.

ps, tighten up the parental notification issue. Seriously, we should have known about it before the Key West Citizen. No Offense meant to the Citizen, y'all do great work.

Lost confidence

He was wrong to say the fraud hotline was unnecessary, wrong to back Gentille and totally wrong to dismiss this incident. If you moved here to retire, you picked the wrong city.

What Boomer said!!

"Their intercom system was broken, so they had to alert the teachers to the lock down by email." In light of all the child deaths recently and the devastating mass murders in Newtown, are you serious!!! There is NO excuse for this! Get it sorted Porter, and unlock that damned fence near the auditorium at the High School before the kids run and are cornered like rats to be slaughtered by a nut job with a "legal" assault rifle. PARENTS---GUNS ARE NOT TOYS!! STOP BUYING THEM FOR YOUR CHILDREN! TOY GUNS ARE AN OXYMORON!!
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